Just a thought: Ported snaffles.. Opinions?

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    08-19-2009, 12:40 AM
Just a thought: Ported snaffles.. Opinions?

Hey all. I'm hoping someone out there can help me out with this. Here's my thoughts: For a horse who doesn't respond well at all to a loose-ring snaffle, but goes perfectly in a standard western curb, do you think a ported snaffle would be a nice English bit option?

Someone just rip me to pieces if that's an idiotic question. Lol I don't know my bits too well.
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    08-19-2009, 12:40 AM
Good question! I'll be curious to see the answer...
    08-19-2009, 01:40 AM
Hmm... I don't think they would be comparable. A ported curb has leverage action on the chin as well as the palate. If you don't have that leverage, you're not doing much in the mouth at all.
Perhaps your horse doesn't like jointed bits? Have you tried a mullen mouth or straight bar snaffle? Have you tried different cheekpieces? Have you considered a mouthpiece with tongue relief?
    08-19-2009, 01:42 AM
So is the only point of a ported snaffle tongue relief/roof pressure?
    08-19-2009, 01:43 AM
Well, he's brand new so I haven't had a chance. Since I know he goes well in a Western curb that's what I'll ride him in. But I do a lot of English riding and need to find a bit he goes well in that is an acceptable English bit. I just have no idea where to start. Heh

Do you have any suggestions?
    08-19-2009, 01:58 AM
In conjunction with a Myler/Billy Allen type mouthpiece, yes SD.

SS, what have you tried? Have his teeth been floated recently? Have you tried a 3 piece (french link, oval link, berry link... etc)? Have you tried a mullen mouth or straightbar? What is it exactly that he's doing that makes you think he doesn't like the bits you've tried?
    08-19-2009, 02:08 AM
The only bits I've ridden him in so far are the curb and a single-jointed loose ring snaffle. In the snaffle he was completely unresponsive. He would not pick up on leg or seat cues and when I reverted to direct rein commands, he tossed his head or turned it to the side, but kept on doing what he was doing before. When I switched to the curb, he did a complete 180 - picked up leads at the canter off my leg, stopped, backed, changed directions on cue. That's about the whole of it. I have no clue where to start. =/
    08-19-2009, 02:17 AM
Sounds like it might be more a case of miscommunication than a bit problem
    08-19-2009, 02:21 AM
It's very consistant though. Everytime we go back to the snaffle it happens again. Back to the curb - He does fine. What do you think the miscommunication would be?
    08-19-2009, 11:22 AM
Myler has three Levels of bits. A Level 3 bit, I guess, could be considered a "ported snaffle." The Level 3 mouthpiece gives the horse ultimate tongue and bar relief, but if it's a snaffle, no leverage.

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