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    03-02-2012, 08:43 PM
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Foal
Kimberwick?

After a recent fail with a Tom Thumb I was given with the horse I was thinking of using the kimberwick also given to me with the horse. It has a cricket I was told this was the bit most often used with the horse and what he likes. How aggressive is this bit? I understand it's English? Would I do better with going and buying a regular snaffle? I'm guessing there is a reason they owned two Tom thumbs and I want the horse to respect the bit. The Tom thumb just made him fear it or be confused by it. He gives his head fairly easy so I'm not worried he will run off on me. I really feel like he is close to being a great horse but he is smart and will get away with whatever he can. He really was working great last Saturday until he seemed to be afraid of the bit.
     
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    03-02-2012, 09:07 PM
  #2
Foal
Just read the sticky on this forum... Don't think that bit will do? Snaffle?
     
    03-03-2012, 12:39 PM
  #3
Started
What are you trying to do? What do expect the bit to do?
     
    03-03-2012, 09:04 PM
  #4
Foal
Stop him! Lol! Just kidding he is fairly well behaved. Just been working the basics getting him use to riding again. He actually neck reigns very well. We have been working a lot on mounting, backing up, and standing still. Standing still is his weak point. I think mostly due to discomfort with his bit. I am going to start with a simple d ring snaffle. I was using a Tom thumb that came with the horse. I had him working great but after riding him two days in a row he began throwing his head a lot. I knew something was causing pain so back to the barn and started researching. Apparently lots of head throwing associated with the Tom thumb. So I started there.
     
    03-03-2012, 09:13 PM
  #5
Super Moderator
So you're looking for a mild western curb bit?

If a nice curb bit is your goal, I have this one for my mare and she loves it. It is her "step up" bit from the snaffle that I put her in once she learned to neckrein:

NP Sweet Iron Loose Cheek Western Curb Bit 5in - Horse.com

The solid mouth means there's no pinching/nutcracker effect like there could be with a broken bit, the swivel shanks mean you can 1-rein-stop if you need to, the shanks are pretty short and swept back so the horse gets a lot of warning before the bit is engaged.

Here's a sticky that I find to be pretty helpful in explaining about western bits. :)

Bit Information (Curb and Western type bits and hackamores)


ETA: I think starting out in a simple snaffle is an excellent choice. Once you get him "ironed out" you can switch him back to a curb or you could even keep him in the snaffle. Neck reining in a snaffle is a smidge harder, but if your horse neck reins well, it really isn't too bad.
     
    03-03-2012, 09:36 PM
  #6
Foal
Neck reigning is his sting suit. For all his bad habits he turns well. I am really hoping the bit is the issue. I really like this horse. Do you think working him in the Tom thumb consecutive days could have caused the head throwing? On top of that we did a fairly long ride. I had him working better than I ever had. He even worked leg cues perfectly. I don't think The previous owner even knew he did that. Then started throwing the head and got progressively worse. That sticky is what helped me decide on the snaffle.
     
    03-03-2012, 11:09 PM
  #7
Weanling
[QUOTE=Wallaby;1390593]So you're looking for a mild western curb bit?

If a nice curb bit is your goal, I have this one for my mare and she loves it. It is her "step up" bit from the snaffle that I put her in once she learned to neckrein:

NP Sweet Iron Loose Cheek Western Curb Bit 5in - Horse.com

The solid mouth means there's no pinching/nutcracker effect like there could be with a broken bit, the swivel shanks mean you can 1-rein-stop if you need to, the shanks are pretty short and swept back so the horse gets a lot of warning before the bit is engaged.
QUOTE]

Oh I really like that bit. It is nice and easy on the mouth, lots of tongue relief - if it had a copper roller it would be my gelding's new favorite bit.
     
    03-04-2012, 07:35 AM
  #8
Started
Tom thumbs don't give a lot of warning before the curb action kicks in.

I've actually only had one horse that didn't work well in a snaffle and he was sort of special case (long story). I don't show so if they work fine off of less I'm happy.

I have a slotted kimberwick set up on a bridle now, broken, snaffle type mouth piece with a copper roller. Have it set up with two sets of reins. It's for my mare that was skin and bones when I got her this fall. By the time the spring thaw comes here she will be well enough to ride but will have been unused all this time. Figured I might want a little extra breaking power on an unknown horse if I need it. If she works well with just the snaffle rein then things will change.

What about something like this? Pretty, mild and you have the option of rein placement with those rings on the shank. I have one, same thought has the kimberwick only I haven't hooked it to anything yet.

$17.99 at Chicks so it's certainly cheap enough to give a test run with. I also see them sell for more than that on ebay.
     
    03-04-2012, 08:13 AM
  #9
Started
STAINLESS SHOWMAN KIMBERWICK BIT COPPER ROLLER HORSE TACK | eBay

That's the same kimberwick I set up.
     
    03-04-2012, 09:31 PM
  #10
Foal
I ride English so I don't know if this will help but I use a kimberwick on my horse because about 2 months ago she started galloping towards the gate and running into it. When that happened I rode with a snaffle and now I ride with a kimberwick and she can't do it anymore. It does give you lots of leverage I really like that.
     

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