Know the name to this?

I have been trying to find this bit FOREVER. Found one on ebay a few months ago and I got it..and of course, it is now missing. It is a full cheek snaffle, but instead of the point having balls on it, it has set rings so you can hook the bridle to the top point and the reins to the bottom point. The mouthpiece has a small amount of sliding gag action. I think I found it under an American Elevator or something like that but i cant find any right hits on it when searching. It IS NOT an american gag, found plenty of those haha

Anyone have any ideas?!

Its a lot like this but looks like a full cheek

Like this one?


Elevator - Gag Horse Bit Catalog

Any of these?
Robarts Pinchless Shank Snaffle


Bits


Bella Equestrian - NEW!- Neue Schule Bits

Ooh, I think I found it!!

Horse Sense - Bridles, Bits & Reins

Ask JustDressageIt, they have a very good understanding of bits. Can you see it in here -- artical by JustDressageIt

Bit Information (Snaffle and English-Type Bits)

i think you are looking for a french link snaffle with copper link, looks like the first but the middle part is copper and it has full cheeks

She doesn't have anything like it in her post, but the super big picture in luv2ride's is exactly what im looking for - thanks!