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  • Lift front pad or lift back for high withers
  • Lollipop saddle riser

 
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    01-24-2009, 06:18 PM
  #1
Trained
lollipop pad/ back lift

Well I got a new saddle and it has a smaller gullet size than my ovation. It seems to fit Montana really well. (by his withers) Only problem I have is that it isn't sitting even on him. As you can see with this picture he has withers!


So I know I need to get something that will even it out, but I don't know what!

I saw these lollipop things, but I don't know how they're supposed to be used, or even if it's the correct thing!
Dovers Seat Riser Pad - Dover Saddlery

And then I see these riser pads and I'm thinking those might be better, but again, I'm not sure
Roma Pro-Tek Wither Relief Lift Back Pad - Dover Saddlery

Is there something else that would be better than those two? (I plan on buying one or the other)
     
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    01-24-2009, 08:52 PM
  #2
Weanling
I use the wither relief pad from Roma. Its nice because it is made to fit in the gullet groove of the saddle and it keeps it from slipping. I had one of those lollipop ones and it moved all the time.
     
    01-25-2009, 04:40 PM
  #3
Green Broke
If it's not level, then it doesn't fit.

Could you take some photos of it on him girthed up, but no pad? I'd like to see how it sits on him. Take a photo from the side, the back, and at his shoulder (showing the WHOLE shoulder and front of the saddle, so we can see how it lays against his shoulder).
     
    01-25-2009, 07:37 PM
  #4
Yearling
Can you use a lollipop pad with a western saddle?
     
    01-25-2009, 11:11 PM
  #5
Showing
Problem is, if you lift the back, you're going to put more pressure on the front. Unfortunately, I do have to agree with Luvs2ride - if a saddle is sitting uneven, it doesn't fit... :(
If you put a rear riser in, and it tips the saddle forward, and creates pinching in the wither, nothing in the whole world will make that right.
Sorry Darylann, not the answer you want :(
     
    01-26-2009, 02:42 PM
  #6
Trained
No it's alright.

I know that it doesn't fit 100% if I need a pad, but with money being tight, getting another saddle is out of the question.

The pad that I had in mind (the roma one) has wither relief so that might possible work, or it won't.

I'll go up and get pictures of him with the saddle on.

The only thing that I find hard to understand is, if a horse has high withers and a low back (like Montana) how are you supposed to have a saddle fit a horse like that well? I would presume that you would need pads to make it even....

I'll make a new thread and post it later today.
     
    01-26-2009, 06:12 PM
  #7
Showing
Some saddles are built with a higher cantle, with more padding in the rear of the saddle, but built to be even, so the weight is still distributed evenly over the back. They generally also have a higher clearance in the pommel as well. A saddle built for non-shark-fin-withered horses won't be balanced if you stick a pad under the rear of the saddle - does that make sense? I hope I've explained it okay.
Having said that, as long as the riser pad doesn't make the saddle sit strange on Montana, it should be an okay fix for now. Please keep a close eye out for pressure points. Think of wearing a backpack that doesn't fit too well, as an analogy?
I wouldn't recommend it to be a permanent fix though.
     
    01-26-2009, 06:43 PM
  #8
Trained
I don't want it to be a permanent fix. When I have money, I plan on getting a new saddle.

I did go ahead and ordered the roma pad. If I find that it makes things worse, I'll return it. I was just going off of the way it looked on him and not how he acted.

I was limited on time when I went to groom them, so the pictures I got probably aren't good, but it might have been the way I placed it on him that it looks like it fits a heck of a lot better. Maybe I just want it to in my head, I'm not sure.
Based on how I put the saddle on him just now, I'm thinking I may have had it too far forward, because when I put it on him just now, it cleared his shoulder and withers and the way the gullet contoured to him was perfect (or close to it IMO)

Once when I have the photos uploaded, I'll put it in the critique section.

Thanks for the help!
     
    01-26-2009, 07:28 PM
  #9
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by toosexy4myspotz    
can you use a lollipop pad with a western saddle?
Lollipop pads are retched and really should never be used. Skito's correction pad comes in a western style/shape. Cashel makes a wedge pad for western saddles too.
     
    01-26-2009, 07:31 PM
  #10
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by appylover31803    
No it's alright.

I know that it doesn't fit 100% if I need a pad, but with money being tight, getting another saddle is out of the question.

The pad that I had in mind (the roma one) has wither relief so that might possible work, or it won't.

I'll go up and get pictures of him with the saddle on.

The only thing that I find hard to understand is, if a horse has high withers and a low back (like Montana) how are you supposed to have a saddle fit a horse like that well? I would presume that you would need pads to make it even....

I'll make a new thread and post it later today.
Check out Skito's correction pad. There's shock absorbing foam in front to help even out the pressure on the withers.

There are saddles that work on high withered horses. You need a partially cut back pommel and a medium to medium-wide tree to fit the shoulders. The cut back pommel gives room for the withers, so the saddle can sit down on the back/shoulders properly.
     

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