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  • Special order western bits
  • Can a horse that uses a 5.25" english bit use a 5" western bit?

 
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    03-14-2009, 02:53 PM
  #1
Weanling
looking for a western bit

I am having the hardest time finding a particular western bit. THere are many that come close, but they are mostly in a 5" mouthpiece and I need 5-1/2"


Style: western "show" type bit
Mouthpiece: 5-1/2" solid, low port, no roller
Shanks: swivel, 7"-8" length

Anyone know where to find something like this in a decent quality?
     
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    03-14-2009, 10:49 PM
  #2
Weanling
Wow, that is a tough one. I looked through all of the Smith Brothers bit but none were 5 1/2 inches. Is your horse a draft cross to need that size? Maybe it could be special ordered for you.
     
    03-14-2009, 11:40 PM
  #3
Weanling
He is a paint with mostly QH lines, but he does look like he has a little draft in him. He does have a "stocky" build with a big head and mouth.

I can find snaffles in 5.25 and 5.5 in. That seems to be common. But finding a decent western bit larger than 5" seems to be a problem. I have tried a 5" but it is definitely tight.

Any idea where to special order? I recently looked a a tack "store" on eBay that sold Greg Darnell "handmade custom" bits. But apparently "handmade" means what is in stock. They don't have anything but 5" bits.
     
    03-15-2009, 03:48 PM
  #4
Weanling
This website has a few 5 1/2" western bits but none are exactly what you are looking for.
Smuckers Harness Shop: English and Western Bits

I found a few custom bit websites but unless you are willing to pay $400 I didn't think I needed to post them.
     
    03-15-2009, 05:14 PM
  #5
Showing
5 1/2" is a rather large bit. Are you sure that is the right size? A QH/Paint cress should not need a bit that large. How big is your horses? The largest bit I've ever needed was a 5 1/4" and that was for a 16.3h Hanoverian/TB cross that weighed ~1350 lb.
     
    03-16-2009, 09:20 AM
  #6
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by iridehorses    
5 1/2" is a rather large bit. Are you sure that is the right size? A QH/Paint cress should not need a bit that large. How big is your horses? The largest bit I've ever needed was a 5 1/4" and that was for a 16.3h Hanoverian/TB cross that weighed ~1350 lb.
He seems to have an unusually large mouth. In a snaffle, I usually use a 5-1/4 which fits well. I picked up a "Myler" shank bit in 5" thinking it would fit. The main problem is the purchase rubs on the outside of his mouth when the shanks swivel. After very little use there was a visible rub. You can also see that the mouthpiece width is very snug.

Based on the amount of room, I am estimating that another 1/4 in on each side would do the trick, thus 5-1/2.

This horse is 16hh and weights about 1350lbs. He is built very "thick and stocky." His head is big and wide. By contrast, I have a 16.2hh QH that weighs about 100-150lbs less. While the size/weight isn't that much different, the QH looks much smaller than that paint just due to the build of each. The QH also uses a 4-3/4 to 5" bit, depending on the bit.

Now you have me thinking that maybe it was just the design of this particular bit. I will look around and try some others to see if a different 5" might do the trick.
     
    03-16-2009, 09:22 AM
  #7
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by LauraB    
This website has a few 5 1/2" western bits but none are exactly what you are looking for.
Smuckers Harness Shop: English and Western Bits

I found a few custom bit websites but unless you are willing to pay $400 I didn't think I needed to post them.
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, these english bits are not what I am looking for. And you are right - a $400 custom bit is not what I am ready to pay. :) Ouch!

I am going to look at some other bits and see if I can't find a 5" that will fit properly.
     
    03-16-2009, 09:23 AM
  #8
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil    
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, these english bits are not what I am looking for. And you are right - a $400 custom bit is not what I am ready to pay. :) Ouch!

I am going to look at some other bits and see if I can't find a 5" that will fit properly.
Actually if you scroll almost all of the way to the bottom of the page there are western bits.
     
    03-16-2009, 09:56 AM
  #9
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by LauraB    
Actually if you scroll almost all of the way to the bottom of the page there are western bits.
Indeed there are. The way that page is designed, I never thought to scroll down. Thanks!
     
    03-16-2009, 10:01 AM
  #10
Showing
You might e-mail these people. They make custom bits and I have ordered from them in the past. The bit that I got was good quality. The only problem is that they use only stainless steel for the mouthpiece but they can put copper inlays if you request it. Have a picture of what you would like and they can make the appropriate size. The one that I got was $75 but was a very simple working ported bit. I would assume a show quality bit would cost more. If you are interested, here is the e-mail.
info@grissombits.com
     

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