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        07-25-2011, 01:19 AM
    You know, Bubba, I just thought about this... do you remember the combo bit I posted on your bit thread? I wonder if I could break her of it with that...... but it picks up the rope hackamore before the bit..... and that might put me right back at square one once I remove the hackamore portion again. But just maybe if she learns to stop the behavior WITH the bit even if its combined with the hackamore instead of being replaced by the other.....
    This is so frustrating.....
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        07-25-2011, 01:21 AM
    They're calling the bit a half cheek, but it's totally not.

    It's supposed to go this way:

    And go in the mouth like this:

    Whereas this is a half cheek snaffle:

    You could have a pair of grazing reins attached to your saddle so that she can't yank her head away....but that's a potentially dangerous situation. No matter what you do now, you're never going to be able to 100% cure her, as she can always remember and revert to old habits...
        07-25-2011, 01:21 AM
    Have you tried rubber bit guards? In my experience they are magical!
        07-25-2011, 01:21 AM
    Ah-haa! MH that's a great idea! Thanks!

    And yes, she's a doll =\ 2 years old, 15.5hh, 1300lbs of lazy, spoiled, attitude!
        07-25-2011, 01:22 AM
    Worth a try if you still have that bit, but the action is fairly slow and harsh on the nose. What about some kind of draw bit for poll pressure?
        07-25-2011, 01:29 AM
    Bubba- yea I know, if she were my horse, I would cure her and never let her remember how to do it again.... but she's not so all I can do is the best I can do for the "now".

    As long as the customer is happy at time of delivery (as these people were NOT) then my job is done. Prior to training, I make them sign a contract that states "training is only as good as the rider..... you have to apply the new techniques to keep the horse working properly..." And I offer free lessons for each horse owner for everything I have taught their horse. That way they have no one to blame but themselves.
        07-25-2011, 01:31 AM
    What draw bit would you recommend?
        07-25-2011, 02:19 AM
    Any ol' one. The harsher mouthpiece would probably be more effective, but I'm not sure that's the right direction to go. It's just a slight chance that shaking the action up would have an effect to make her stop and think. Probably something with a rope behind the ears, not too rough, but not too soft, either.
        07-25-2011, 03:06 AM
    Instead of trying different bits have you tried getting bigger with the consequence of pulling the reins. By this I mean that at the moment the consequence you are giving her isn't enough to make her think twice about pulling the reins so she thinks well i'll do it anyway because what happens when I do isn't all that bad. When she first starts to put her head down bump the rein upwards as hard as you can if this is hard enough you should only need to do it that once. It needs to feel as uncomfortable as you can make it for her when she is doing the wrong thing.

    I had a problem with my mare reaching down for grass and I was bumping away asking her politely not to do it and I just had to keep asking, she wasn't getting the message, my error was my mare was getting ruder and instead of getting ruder back I stayed asking her politely. My trainer got on one day and she did what I said above yes my mare reacted to it but never tried it again because she didn't want it to happen again.
        07-25-2011, 06:47 AM
    Originally Posted by heartprints62    
    And yes, she's a doll =\ 2 years old, 15.5hh, 1300lbs of lazy, spoiled, attitude!
    There is no such thing as 15.5 hh.

    And if she's just 2 yo sorry to say so, but it's not a good idea to use harsher bits (it's not a good idea to ride in general). Sounds like she's lacking training (which she should at just 2 yo). I'd still stick to the loose ring 3-link snaffle personally. Do you use loose rings or eggbutt/full cheek at the moment?

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