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post #21 of 50 Old 07-25-2011, 10:08 AM
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I am not a trainer by any means, but did have this problem. My horse used to pull his face to his cehst, the ground, and completely ignored me in his snaffle. In harsher bits he would do it less, but not stop. I tried lessons, a trainer got on him, had the vet out,etc nothign stopped it. ONe day I was sick of my hands hurting and yanking back on his mouth, I looped the reins in my hand and smacked him on his neck/wither area. He popped his head up. Everytime he tought about it, I popped him, and eventually he stopped. It probably took 2 days.
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post #22 of 50 Old 07-25-2011, 10:45 AM
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All the above or keep the rope halter on also & give that a tug when she goes down.
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post #23 of 50 Old 07-25-2011, 10:50 AM Thread Starter
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Netty- Trust me, any little random head pull or leaning on a bit is nothing compared to this. She pulls so hard that if you aren't paying attention, and don't drop the rein or bracy yourself strongly, she will pull you out of the saddle over her head. Which is why the owners ask for my help, after thier 21yo niece flew off over her head.

KittenVal- sorry that was a typo.... I taped her at 15.3 the day I started working with her. That's what I get for asking questions at 11pm. =)
I also agree, she shouldn't be ridden much. I am never on her longer than 45 min once a day. But again, she isn't my horse, I have told the owners that they need to let her grow up another year at least before any major riding, that just because she's big, she's still a baby. Ultimately, they are going to do what they want. I'm only trying to help them with a problem.
To answer your question she does this in every bit I have tried so far. Loose ring snaffle is what they owners want to ride her in, so I need to find a middle ground to get her uncomfortable in that action and be able to leave her in or work her back to the loose ring snaffle.

LetaGirl- If she were my horse, I may or may not use that tactic. But she is not my horse, the owners were uncomfortable with me riding in split leather reins because of the weight of the ends used for corrective spanking. There is NO way I could tell them "I "Fixed" her by wacking her in the neck..." even if that does temporarily fix the problem. The problem with that also is that when she goes back home, they would never do that to her, so she would go right back to square one.

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post #24 of 50 Old 07-25-2011, 10:56 AM Thread Starter
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All the above or keep the rope halter on also & give that a tug when she goes down.
that's not a bad idea. Maybe I could clip my reins to the sides of the halter and to the rings on the bit and get the effect of the hackamore that she respects, but with bit pressure that she needs to learn..... it would be worth a try....

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post #25 of 50 Old 07-25-2011, 11:01 AM
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You might try an overcheck attached to the horn of your saddle.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining why I'm right.

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post #26 of 50 Old 07-25-2011, 11:08 AM Thread Starter
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You might try an overcheck attached to the horn of your saddle.
I have heard of theses, but never seen one used (that I know of). Can you post a picture of how it's used?

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Or, you can rig up an anti-grazing device like this

Anti-Grazing Device < Lungeing and Training Equiptment < Horse Tack|Dover Saddlery.

Even if you train the horse not to do this with YOU, he is probably smart enough to know that he can do it with THEM. This device lets him punish himself...INSTANTLY when he pulls that.
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post #28 of 50 Old 07-25-2011, 11:21 AM
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Or, you can rig up an anti-grazing device like this

Anti-Grazing Device < Lungeing and Training Equiptment < Horse Tack|Dover Saddlery.

Even if you train the horse not to do this with YOU, he is probably smart enough to know that he can do it with THEM. This device lets him punish himself...INSTANTLY when he pulls that.
That is basically how an overcheck works. What it is still used for is to prevent driving horses from being able to nibble grass. It goes from the bit, between his ears and attaches to the water hook on a saddle (driving harness) - in your case it would attach to the saddle horn.

What Allison posted would work great in your situation.

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Thanks everyone for the help! I have lots of ideas to try before I start getting a harsher bit. That's exactly what I was hoping for!

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Thanks everyone for the help! I have lots of ideas to try before I start getting a harsher bit. That's exactly what I was hoping for!

GOOD FOR YOU!!! Putting a harsh bit in a 2 year old is NEVER the way to go, IMO. Way too early to pull out the "big guns". Good call on your part.

Quick, fair correction is what is needed. Pull her up, and send her forward with a strong leg (not allowing her to burst forward, however).
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