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    12-28-2011, 02:47 PM
  #11
Foal
Well im sorry but you guys don't know my horse. So your wrong. But if you say you can't use equipment to solve the problem.. what will? Talking to him saying to stop it... No. And he doesnt throw his head all the time.. I just want a martingale so whenever he does do it he can't because of the martingale. And he will learn to stop whenever he does do it he will learn to stop. If you guys say that the equipment wont solve the problem.. and if you r saying that you souldnt use it why did people invent it! To make the horse look pretty? NO. I juts wasnt sure what martingale to use for his LITTLE problem. Now I know.. im getting a standing martingale.. thanks for your help:)
     
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    12-28-2011, 03:13 PM
  #12
Started
Imo, someone in your situation who doesn't want to do the work to teach the horse would "invent" a martingale with the thought of "the piece of equipment will teach the horse". That isn't how riding works. Perhaps I should clarify that - that isn't how it SHOULD work. Extra pieces of tack are, ime, used by people who want a quick and easy fix instead of doing the slow and steady work of teaching and training the horse.

I'm hoping that this isn't the case here with you and your horse, but your response does make me feel that way. I'm sorry if you don't like what some people have said here but we can only go by what information you have provided. You are correct that we do not know you or your horse, so if you want a better/different/more complete response from someone, YOU need to provide more information. In fact, how about you provide a video of you riding your horse so we can see what is actually happening?
     
    12-28-2011, 03:24 PM
  #13
Foal
Yes I understand what your saying... But to slow down and do one step at a time in the end you will end up using the martingale in the process. But thanks for your help.
     
    12-28-2011, 03:50 PM
  #14
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Originally Posted by horse lover 114    
Yes I understand what your saying... But to slow down and do one step at a time in the end you will end up using the martingale in the process. But thanks for your help.
this is what i'm trying to say - that if you teach the horse what you want you won't have to use the martingale. Anyways... good luck to you and your horse. :)
     
    12-28-2011, 04:34 PM
  #15
Trained
Well I for one have not seen a horse that joyfully throws its head constantly.
Have you actually had the dentist out in the last 6 months, checked the fit of your bit, and had a saddler out to check your saddle fit?
How quiet are your hands? Do you have perfect, quiet, allowing, elastic hands that always maintain a line from elbow, wrist to bit?
Do you sit very quietly and effectively in the saddle? Never bumping the horse's back, never gripping with your knees, never blocking the back or shoulder?

That's where you should start with addressing a head tossing issue. Not finding the easy way out, if you want to learn to really ride and train, address the source of the issue, don't cover it with an extra 'gadget'.

A horse that is travelling with engaged quarters, a swinging back, and into a steady contact does not toss its head if there are no discomfort issues as I listed above. Contact doesn't necessarily have to be 'on the bit', just a steady connection to the bridle a little in front of the vertical, but still steady.

When you get that, and your horse is still tossing its head, try putting up some photos of video and I, and many other posters here, can give you more exercises to help with this.
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    12-28-2011, 05:29 PM
  #16
Foal
Okay tell me why everyone puts martingales on their horse?!
     
    12-28-2011, 05:51 PM
  #17
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Originally Posted by horse lover 114    
Okay tell me why everyone puts martingales on their horse?!
fashion. Laziness. Uneducated/miseducated. I would hazard a guess that very few horses who are seen with a martingale actually have any need for them if they are properly trained/ridden.

Again, just my OPINIONS.
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    12-28-2011, 05:53 PM
  #18
Foal
Okay..so you guys are saying martingales are bad? Thanks for the advice I can save $70!:)
     
    12-28-2011, 05:57 PM
  #19
Showing
They aren't bad, just they're not really necessary. They're kind of like a temporary fix (a band-aid) or I know for young horses, we used to put breastplates/martingales on them to prevent the saddle from slipping because they weren't balanced (I was only a helper.. not sure if that is how a breastplate/martingale works.)
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    12-28-2011, 06:07 PM
  #20
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Breastplates, ime, are for saddle fit/slippage issues based on the horses conformation, the saddles fit and the balance of both horse and rider. Not all things always apply when using a breastplate - those are just some reasons i've seen them used. Some people also just like the look of a breastplate. *shrug*

I agree with the temporary fix sky. ;)
     

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