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post #1 of 13 Old 06-09-2013, 09:34 PM Thread Starter
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Question This may be a silly question-bits

This may sound funny but let me explain. I have a gelding that throws his head in the western bridle because I have a tom thumb on it. ( please no rude comments on that) But is perfectly fine with the d ring snaffle I have on my english bit. So, would I be able to take one of my snaffles off my english bridle and put it on my western? Is there a difference? I would be showing in it. Is it "Wrong"?

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post #2 of 13 Old 06-09-2013, 09:54 PM
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There is absolutely no problem with putting a snaffle on a western bridle.

He obviously does not like the TT. So ditch it and find something he will like. In the mean time, go ahead and use a snaffle.

What type of showing do you do? Local? Breed shows? In pleasure I've only shown locally and used to use a snaffle and would direct rein.

Id suggest trying a Jr Cowhorse with a short shank and see what he thinks. Its built different then the TT, but will be "acceptable" for the older horse in the show ring and neck reining.
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What classes are you showing in and how old is your horse?
The show rules may say over a certain age(usually 5 years) that he should be shown western in a curb bit.
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Point of interest: A Jr. Cowhorse is NOT legal to show in classes such as pleasure, horsemanship, reining, cowhorse, or any of that at all. You can't have any sort of gag.

If this horse is over age he needs to be up in the bridle, in which case I would look into a billy allen shank bit. It is flexible, but much better balanced and softer than a TT by all means. Never had a horse go bad in that bit. Then find out from there if you need something else or if that will work for you.
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Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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Point of interest: A Jr. Cowhorse is NOT legal to show in classes such as pleasure, horsemanship, reining, cowhorse, or any of that at all. You can't have any sort of gag.

If this horse is over age he needs to be up in the bridle, in which case I would look into a billy allen shank bit. It is flexible, but much better balanced and softer than a TT by all means. Never had a horse go bad in that bit. Then find out from there if you need something else or if that will work for you.
Very Interesting indeed. I've seen it around here locally. Then again, I've totally outgrown my pleasure phase.
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What classes are you showing in and how old is your horse?
The show rules may say over a certain age(usually 5 years) that he should be shown western in a curb bit.

I would be doing Local shows and Its English in the morning, western in the afternoon. Its just On command, Discipline Rail, Eq, and pleasure. He is a 12 year Old Paint Cross. The rules for my shows are:

English:

*Bridles may be double, Pelham, snaffle, or kimberwick.

Western:

* Bits must have shank with a leather or chain chinstrap at least ˝ inch wide, (I guess that rules out my question)
for horses 6yrs and older, ridden with one hand. One finger allowed between split reins.

Okay from rereading that it kind of mixed me up a bit. What is the closest thing to a snaffle but still being a shank? I'm sorry guys, I just don't get this



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Shanks are the long side pieces on a bit. What you're looking for is still going to be a curb bit, but something jointed. From my understanding there's really no such thing as a snaffle with shanks. They're still curbs just with a different mouthpiece. He may respond better in a nicer curb. TT's can be all sorts of messed up confusion with communication sometimes and some horses just hate them. My old barrel racer was ridden in one by his previous owners & would constantly grab the bit and jerk his head back and forth. When we switched bits it made a huge difference. He was more relaxed to flex at his poll and stopped his head jerking.

Does he neck rein & listen to hand/leg cues pretty well? I personally advise doing most of your schooling in a snaffle anyway then working in the curb just to "fine tune" every so often. Also remember, we can give suggestions but ultimately you need to find something YOU like and your horse is comfortable in. I'm a fan of the Myler bits:

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They are expensive, but you can find them cheaper. I'm just really a fan of the mouthpiece. I believe you can show in them for WP too.
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I had a whole long reply typed out then I lost it...grrr....

Anyway...short version.

I would definitely get a billy allen bit. They are way inexpensive and still wonderfully made bits. Also, check out the tack and equipment section for some info on bits in the stickies. :)

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It's called a counter canter...
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post #9 of 13 Old 06-10-2013, 10:48 AM Thread Starter
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Okay Thanks everyone! You are so much help!

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I am also a fan of Myler bits.

Good luck in your search for a bit that works for your horse. Tack issues are so much fun. : (

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