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    07-19-2012, 11:08 PM
  #11
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Joe4d    
The Army adopted the Mclellan because Mclellan was the General in chief of the Army.
If only that were the case it would be easy to understand .

Actually he designed the saddle around 1855/56 while a Capt of Cav. Resigned from the army around 1857. Saddle was adopted by the Army around 1859 while he was a civilian. McClellan didn't returned to the army in 1861 after the outbreak of the war, but returned with a General Officer rank instead of the Capt's rank he resigned as.
     
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    07-19-2012, 11:49 PM
  #12
Yearling
Took the time to look it up. Had to be a reason the Army went to a saddle that wasn't actually the better of the available saddles.

And of course there was. Somethings never change........it was the cheapest to make. Less leather, less metal and less work to manufacture. The one thing McClellan obvously didn't bother to learn from the Russians and Prussians who's saddles were amoung those he studied in making his design was the number of horses taken out of action during campaigns due to sore backs. But then our Cav had not been a part of many long campaigns at that point in history so maybe he didn't think it was as important a factor.
The British Cav had been in many and knew the impact of so many horses unfit for duty. But the universal pattern was certainly more expensive to make.
     
    07-20-2012, 02:22 AM
  #13
Green Broke
Well if he went from capt to general in 3 years while on vacation, he obviously knew someone.
     
    07-20-2012, 02:33 AM
  #14
Yearling
Pretty much. They needed generals so bad that I you had ok credentials you were promoted.
     
    07-20-2012, 01:54 PM
  #15
Yearling
Actually it was probably more a case of being an Academy graduate with excellent class position and experience from the war with Mexico. And initially his generals rank was just for command of troops with 90 day enlistments from Ohio. He commanded Ohio troops, not the regular army. That came later. It was very common for states to promote officers to high ranks that they did not actually hold with the regular army. A few actually went on to hold that rank in the Army, but most never did. States could give rank to officers in command of their troops, but it wasn't a regular Army commission. (e.g. Custer died a LtCol in the Army and he wasn't qualified for that, but being a West Point grad does wonders even for the incompetent)
     
    07-20-2012, 04:23 PM
  #16
Yearling
Well Custer was promoted to rank of Brigadier General at age 23, even though he had hundreds of demerits and graduated close to the end of his class. He was never high in his class at West Point, and yet he became a general for the war.
     
    07-21-2012, 01:28 AM
  #17
Yearling
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Originally Posted by cowgirl928    
well Custer was promoted to rank of Brigadier General at age 23, even though he had hundreds of demerits and graduated close to the end of his class. He was never high in his class at West Point, and yet he became a general for the war.
Custer was only a "brevet" General and never got about a Lt Col commission in the regular Army.
Pennypacker was far more interesting than Custer. He did not attend West Point. Joined a PA regiment at the start of the war in April 1861 as a NCO. Before that Winter he had risen to Major and was a brevet Brig. General at 20. Later becoming a brevet Major General, but never got above Col in the regular Army.

But none of this has anything to do with the McClellan saddle
     
    07-21-2012, 09:53 AM
  #18
Green Broke
Mcclellan started as a Militia General of Ohio, won one or two minor skirmishes in soon to be west virginia while most of the men were away. At the same time The Union Army got their butts handed to them at Bull Run, the North panicked, the newspapers made a hero out of Mclellen and just like that, Regular Army Major General. He was a great organizer, great at logistics, bad and overly cautious tactical commander.
     

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