McClellan saddles ? - Page 2
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Horse Tack > Horse Tack and Equipment

McClellan saddles ?

This is a discussion on McClellan saddles ? within the Horse Tack and Equipment forums, part of the Horse Tack category
  • Powered by myBB military officer ranks
  • Powered by myBB what is the highest ranking officer in the army

Like Tree1Likes

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
    07-20-2012, 12:08 AM
  #11
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe4d    
The Army adopted the Mclellan because Mclellan was the General in chief of the Army.
If only that were the case it would be easy to understand .

Actually he designed the saddle around 1855/56 while a Capt of Cav. Resigned from the army around 1857. Saddle was adopted by the Army around 1859 while he was a civilian. McClellan didn't returned to the army in 1861 after the outbreak of the war, but returned with a General Officer rank instead of the Capt's rank he resigned as.
     
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
    07-20-2012, 12:49 AM
  #12
Yearling
Took the time to look it up. Had to be a reason the Army went to a saddle that wasn't actually the better of the available saddles.

And of course there was. Somethings never change........it was the cheapest to make. Less leather, less metal and less work to manufacture. The one thing McClellan obvously didn't bother to learn from the Russians and Prussians who's saddles were amoung those he studied in making his design was the number of horses taken out of action during campaigns due to sore backs. But then our Cav had not been a part of many long campaigns at that point in history so maybe he didn't think it was as important a factor.
The British Cav had been in many and knew the impact of so many horses unfit for duty. But the universal pattern was certainly more expensive to make.
     
    07-20-2012, 03:22 AM
  #13
Green Broke
Well if he went from capt to general in 3 years while on vacation, he obviously knew someone.
     
    07-20-2012, 03:33 AM
  #14
Yearling
Pretty much. They needed generals so bad that I you had ok credentials you were promoted.
     
    07-20-2012, 02:54 PM
  #15
Yearling
Actually it was probably more a case of being an Academy graduate with excellent class position and experience from the war with Mexico. And initially his generals rank was just for command of troops with 90 day enlistments from Ohio. He commanded Ohio troops, not the regular army. That came later. It was very common for states to promote officers to high ranks that they did not actually hold with the regular army. A few actually went on to hold that rank in the Army, but most never did. States could give rank to officers in command of their troops, but it wasn't a regular Army commission. (e.g. Custer died a LtCol in the Army and he wasn't qualified for that, but being a West Point grad does wonders even for the incompetent)
     
    07-20-2012, 05:23 PM
  #16
Yearling
Well Custer was promoted to rank of Brigadier General at age 23, even though he had hundreds of demerits and graduated close to the end of his class. He was never high in his class at West Point, and yet he became a general for the war.
     
    07-21-2012, 02:28 AM
  #17
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by cowgirl928    
well Custer was promoted to rank of Brigadier General at age 23, even though he had hundreds of demerits and graduated close to the end of his class. He was never high in his class at West Point, and yet he became a general for the war.
Custer was only a "brevet" General and never got about a Lt Col commission in the regular Army.
Pennypacker was far more interesting than Custer. He did not attend West Point. Joined a PA regiment at the start of the war in April 1861 as a NCO. Before that Winter he had risen to Major and was a brevet Brig. General at 20. Later becoming a brevet Major General, but never got above Col in the regular Army.

But none of this has anything to do with the McClellan saddle
     
    07-21-2012, 10:53 AM
  #18
Green Broke
Mcclellan started as a Militia General of Ohio, won one or two minor skirmishes in soon to be west virginia while most of the men were away. At the same time The Union Army got their butts handed to them at Bull Run, the North panicked, the newspapers made a hero out of Mclellen and just like that, Regular Army Major General. He was a great organizer, great at logistics, bad and overly cautious tactical commander.
     

Quick Reply
Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WTB Reproduction 1859 McClellan saddle 7thhorsesoldier Tack and Equipment Classifieds 1 07-08-2012 10:29 PM
Voltair Saddles | Saddles for Short English Eventers/Field Hunters CJ82Sky Horse Tack Reviews 2 06-07-2012 12:25 PM
Aussie Saddles vs. Western Saddles? SunnyK01 Horse Tack and Equipment 27 04-08-2012 09:36 AM
Civil War McClellan Confederate Saddle 7thhorsesoldier Tack and Equipment Classifieds 16 11-10-2011 10:35 AM
McClellan saddles Kentucky Horse Tack and Equipment 6 02-17-2010 01:48 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0