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View Poll Results: Have you personally known a horse with a broken nose from a Mechanical Hackamore
Yes I have seen a horses nose broken by a M.H. 1 14.29%
Yes I have known a horse with a broken nose from a M.H. 0 0%
I have heard of a horses nose broken by a M.H. From other people. 2 28.57%
No I have never know a horse with a broken nose from a M.H. 4 57.14%
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post #1 of 29 Old 01-23-2012, 05:27 AM Thread Starter
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Mechanical Hackamore?

I was just curious... How many of you have actually known a horse that had a broken nose from a M. Hackamore? If so what was the story behind it?
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post #2 of 29 Old 01-23-2012, 02:27 PM
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I rode my horse for 32 years in a hackamore braided and flat noseband.
Never ever heard of anyone breaking a horse's nose with one.
I suppose it would be possiable if it wasn't used correctly and fitted right by the wrong person..........
Sad if that happened
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post #3 of 29 Old 01-23-2012, 02:42 PM
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I've started every horse i've ever started in a mechanical hackamore, and/or bosal. I've never had a horse injured by one. Must have been severe abuse by the rider.
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I've started every horse i've ever started in a mechanical hackamore, and/or bosal.
I'm curious what your reasons for doing that are? Not so much the starting in a hackamore, more why a mechanical, and also the "and/or" do you start some with both and switch back and forth?
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post #6 of 29 Old 01-23-2012, 06:04 PM Thread Starter
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I'm just curious, I use a M. Hack on my 11 year old QH. I was out riding and was pretty much ambushed by a lady that went off on me because I use one! Now my gelding is the softest horse I've ever ridden. He cannot stand to have a bit in his mouth and will resort to constant head tossing. He gets so upset that it could become dangerous if I insisted that he wear any kind of bit. His teeth are checked and floated every year so it's not his mouth.

I've always ridden him in one and only have to use the lightest of pressure on him. He stops as soon as I put my weight on my pockets, turns on leg pressure alone ect. I only use the lightest of cues from the reins. I have tried using a bosal with him but he starts the head tossing again. I don't know if he can't stand change but I am perfectly happy keeping him in what he feels comfortable in.

This woman tried to accuse me of being cruel for using one! She also informed me that I am doing nerve damage to my horse and that the M.H. Could break his nose. I asked her if she had ever seen a horse with a broken nose or nerve damage from a M.H. She said yes, several..... I proceeded to show her how I worked with my horse, told her that ANY bit, hack, or even a bosal could cause pain and damage to a horse in un educated or abusive hands. Thanked her for her opinion and went on my way. Yet she continued trying to explain to me how harsh my choice "could" be. She was what I consider a fanatic and in the end I told her to mind her own business.

It did make wonder if the nose breaking part were true though?

Not trying to start a debate about the use of the MH just wanted to see if anyone had actually been witness to a horse with a broken nose from one?
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What was she using or suggesting you use? I find it hard to believe she's seen lots of broken noses, it's just not that common of a tool.
I myself don't use a mechanical hackamore, I'm a traditional bosal type hackamore rider, I'm a student of vaquero horsemanship.
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She was using a kimberwicke bit. I was not going to argue with her all day about how I choose to ride my horse! I've been riding since I was 8 and I'm now in my 40's and have never witnessed a horse with a broken nose from one. Im a trail/western pleasure type girl so I admittedly don't know everything but then again I haven't met anyone yet that does!
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I've been riding in Mechanical hacks for five years, and although I wouldn't let a beginner or anyone who is not adjusted to riding in one use it anywhere near my horse (which is why Indie has a snaffle bridle for friends and the kids, and the one with my hack on it that only I use ;) ), I wouldn't call them cruel. I've seen some horses become quite relaxed in hacks and I have never had a bad experience,injuries, or any sort of "trauma" come from them. It does have long shanks, and generally sits on a sensitive part of the nose so I wouldn't want someone who doesn't know how to ride properly using one.

Any bit can be cruel, some are potentially stronger than others. But I don't see my soft flat nosed, loose rigged hack doing any damage in my quiet hands.

Sides, there is always going to be someone who doesn't like a certain piece of tack you have. I've had people downright say my western saddle was cruel because it wasn't English, and yes I've had people bash my hackamore just because of what it is and not of how it is used or adjusted.
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I've been riding in Mechanical hacks for five years, and although I wouldn't let a beginner or anyone who is not adjusted to riding in one use it anywhere near my horse (which is why Indie has a snaffle bridle for friends and the kids, and the one with my hack on it that only I use ;) ), I wouldn't call them cruel. I've seen some horses become quite relaxed in hacks and I have never had a bad experience,injuries, or any sort of "trauma" come from them. It does have long shanks, and generally sits on a sensitive part of the nose so I wouldn't want someone who doesn't know how to ride properly using one.

Any bit can be cruel, some are potentially stronger than others. But I don't see my soft flat nosed, loose rigged hack doing any damage in my quiet hands.

Sides, there is always going to be someone who doesn't like a certain piece of tack you have. I've had people downright say my western saddle was cruel because it wasn't English, and yes I've had people bash my hackamore just because of what it is and not of how it is used or adjusted.

I totally agree! Since Cowboy fights anything else I stick with what causes the least amount of stress for both of us! Im the only one that rides him. He was not very well treated before I got him and came with some pretty deep trust issues. Thank goodness we have an awesome little mare that the kids can ride!

Thanks for the replies! I thought she was blowing smoke when she said that.Next time something like that happens I'll just walk away. Some people think the only right way is their way. Thank goodness they have been few and far between!
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