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    09-12-2009, 02:26 PM
  #11
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I don't think they're necessary and I would never use one. Some people swear by those scary-as-hell training bits, though. Oh, how in the world did the Indians and Mongols get along without them?! *facepalm*
     
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    09-12-2009, 03:40 PM
  #12
Green Broke
So is OP talking about snaffle milkmars or evil milkmars?
     
    09-12-2009, 08:29 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
Yes that was my understanding that everyone talking about "Mikmar Bits" talks about those huge strange-looking ones. So I was very surprised to see really nice standard bits in Dover. So I am trying to be fair to them saying they do have nice bits too! Lol!
Thank you very much KV, they actually look like really nice bits.
     
    09-12-2009, 10:07 PM
  #14
Weanling
First I'd like to ask if any of you that can't stand the mikmar bits have ever tried them. If not than you really don't have any right to bad mouth them. Do you use a flash or figure 8 noseband? People say the same thing about them. That they look mean cause the horse can't open his mouth as much and whatnot yet they don't hurt the horse anymore than a regular one does. I personally like these bits. Yes they are big but they are very lightweight and slant so they barely touch the tongue at all. My horse loves them. I know that all sounded kinda snippitty and I don't mean to offend anyone but try it before you state that you hate them.
     
    09-13-2009, 04:07 PM
  #15
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Janasse    
First I'd like to ask if any of you that can't stand the mikmar bits have ever tried them. If not than you really don't have any right to bad mouth them. Do you use a flash or figure 8 noseband? People say the same thing about them. That they look mean cause the horse can't open his mouth as much and whatnot yet they don't hurt the horse anymore than a regular one does. I personally like these bits. Yes they are big but they are very lightweight and slant so they barely touch the tongue at all. My horse loves them. I know that all sounded kinda snippitty and I don't mean to offend anyone but try it before you state that you hate them.
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I dunno.. Long shank, long purchase, high port.. Although I WILL say: A bit is only as harsh as the person using it makes it. I truly don't see the 'great' benefits of it....
     
    09-13-2009, 07:27 PM
  #16
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Originally Posted by Janasse    
First I'd like to ask if any of you that can't stand the mikmar bits have ever tried them. If not than you really don't have any right to bad mouth them. Do you use a flash or figure 8 noseband? People say the same thing about them. That they look mean cause the horse can't open his mouth as much and whatnot yet they don't hurt the horse anymore than a regular one does. I personally like these bits. Yes they are big but they are very lightweight and slant so they barely touch the tongue at all. My horse loves them. I know that all sounded kinda snippitty and I don't mean to offend anyone but try it before you state that you hate them.
I work in a tack shop; I've seen them and handled them, but wouldn't ever use one.
Re: figure 8 and flash cavessons, there is really no comparison; when adjusted correctly (not too tight; though tight seems to be the fad lately) they are not restrictng.
The Mikmars have such a thick mouthpiece I can't imagine them being very comfortable for a horse; and the port/roller is really quite high.
My concern with this bit is as with any "severe" bit; people slap them on to correct a problem that should be addressed differently; I had someone in my store the other day wanting to buy a double offset twisted wire snaffle and a tie down because the horse "magikally stopped throwing its head" - yeah, because it was in a lot of pain. Not saying this is what the Mikmar is doing, but a horse can and will become quiet when it's forced into something as well.
     
    09-13-2009, 07:49 PM
  #17
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Sunny06    
So is OP talking about snaffle milkmars or evil milkmars?
Either. I was just wondering how many people have tried them and stuff. I was just curious.

Also. I know I'm going to get a hard time for this, but I am considering -trying- a Mikmar bit. Not the training bits with all the ropes and stuff.
The one I am looking at does in fact have a port, but it is one of their lower ported ones, and it has a curved mouthpiece. (Not a broken mouthpiece). If my horse seems to be in any amount of pain at all or if he dislikes it, I will of course stop using it right away.
I will let you all know what he "tells" me. You never know unless you try something.
Also, if I am looking at it correctly, though the mouthpiece does have more metal than most bits, it is infact a wider bit than simple snaffles. If used correctly (no jerking on the reins - obviously - and riding with very light hands), it could be quite a mild bit.
     
    09-13-2009, 08:07 PM
  #18
Weanling
The one I like is the d-ring with the wide port. I realized that my post earlier didn't say what I wanted it to. I am against the ones with the shanks and rope but only because its way too much for my gelding and yeah I don't see the point. But the others, if used properly are no worse than a regular snaffle IMO.
     
    09-14-2009, 12:39 PM
  #19
dee
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I have a mare that is a bit hard to control - she is very hard mouthed. If I had money to burn, I would love to try one of the Mikmar feather bits - They have a short shanked version that shouldn't be too harsh, but would still get the point across...
     

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