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  • 6 gullet saddle "national show horse"
  • Treeless to fit national show horse

 
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    02-08-2010, 11:38 PM
  #11
Green Broke
I also live in an area where saddle fitting is not a big concern. Most horses and riders seem to do fine, but, there are a LOT of horses I see with patches of white at their shoulder or somewhere along their back, on an otherwise "solid" colored horse... Those white patches, same on both sides, are only caused by one issue: the saddle.
     
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    02-08-2010, 11:42 PM
  #12
Trained
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Originally Posted by SouthernTrailsGA    
Kevinhorses and Appy luvr, what you say may be true for your area, but you must realize that the OP is probably in an area that has TB, QH, Arabs, Drafts and many other Breeds.

To say one size Saddle will fit all of them is just plain Wrong and it has nothing to do with the Cost of the Saddle, I can guarantee you a $5,000.00 Saddle is not going to fit any Horse, nor would a 10,000.00 Saddle.

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I do believe I heerd of dem there breeds onct or twict even out hear in the sticks. I have ridden all those breeds and while my saddle doesn't fit perfectly it fits well enough that it doesn't cause soreness or pain.
     
    02-08-2010, 11:53 PM
  #13
Green Broke
People have differing opinion on what fits and what doesn't...

There is no saddle in the world, not even a treeless "fits everything" saddle, that will fit both a Thoroughbred and a Draft horse. Only if you have one chunky low-withered TB and a small, narrow Draft. Then you might get it to work, sort of, for a short ride.

Saddle sores don't always show up right away. Many horses deal with pain really well. You don't realize there's a saddle fit issue until those white hairs show up, which can take weeks or even months to show up on the horse. Or you could mistake pain reactions like bucking, spooking, balking, running from the halter, fidgeting when being saddled, ect. For behavioral problems. All of those can be behavioral problems, but they can also very well be pain or discomfort related...
     
    02-09-2010, 02:32 AM
  #14
Weanling
I have two saddles, one new custom, and one super old one. I have used them both on QH, Mustang, Appaloosas, Arab, part Arab, and my Bashkir Curly. I have never had a sore horse or any saddle sores or any white patches on them and we are talking 6 -12 hour days of hard riding. If my saddle was hurting my horse I would know it. If you want to use extremes like a huge draft or a super skinny TB then sure, they might not fit my saddle but for the most part you could use my saddle on any breed without a problem.
     
    02-09-2010, 08:13 AM
  #15
Yearling
We have a variety of different saddles, both english and western. However, ceartain saddles go with ceartain horses. We have a FQHB roper that we have used on basically everyone and it has fit them alright (the only horse we didnt use it on that much was my sister's Morgan, as it didnt fit him right at all)

Another lady I knew had a nice all around hard seat western saddle that she used on all types of horses. I guess its all about finding "that perfect saddle" that suits you.
     
    02-09-2010, 08:52 AM
  #16
Showing
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Originally Posted by Appy Luvr    
I have two saddles, one new custom, and one super old one. I have used them both on QH, Mustang, Appaloosas, Arab, part Arab, and my Bashkir Curly.
With the possible exception of the Arab, the horses you describe can easily be similar body type and your saddle will fit fine. (My Arab, Charlie, is a Polish bred Arab and is built more like a QH then a typical Arab)

I believe the point of the thread is that there is no magic tree so that you can fit it to a mutton wither QH and a sharkfin TB. If there was a saddle that worked for all horses, then all the threads about saddle fitting would be a waste of time.

Further, even though a saddle is not causing white spots does not mean that it fits the horse well. A person can wear a size 10 shoe but a 9 1/2 works better. Secondly, since no saddle will ever fit a horse 100% of the time due to weight and muscle changes to your horse, saddle pads will help fine tune but not necessarily correct an ill fitting saddle.
     
    02-09-2010, 09:16 AM
  #17
Weanling
I have a really nice well made "Dover Circuit A/P" from Dover Saddlery which costed about 1,000 and it fits Cutter whos more like a bulldog style QH and Midnight whos more lean and slender well.
When I used to take riding lessons, several kids bought their own saddles, and the riding instructors would always tell them to buy a medium tree and around sized 17.
This fit most of the horses, but some horses needed a gell pad and some needed a riser pad.
     
    02-09-2010, 09:59 AM
  #18
Green Broke
No, one saddle will not fit EVERY horse out there. But I'm with Kevin on this one... buy something better quality and you have a better chance of fitting more horses then some crappy India made plastic thing. I ride ~5 horses a day with new horses coming in and out every month. I'm not going to get a new saddle for every horse that comes in. Every saddler/tack vender I know has told me adjustable gullets are horrid (not that any of the brands I'd ride in have those). I ride WBs, TBs, QHs, and ponies. While it might not fit every horse perfectly I have an assortment of padding just in case, and the horses I ride go around happily, jump well, and move freely under me so I'm not concerned.
     
    02-09-2010, 10:39 AM
  #19
Showing
If a trainer is riding several horses per day, a lot of forgiveness is allowed due to several reasons. For the most part, those horses are ridden for less then an hour at a time and not for several hours of trail riding or working cattle all day (as examples). For a short time under saddle, and with proper padding, a horse can make do with an semi fitting saddle (within reason).

The price of a saddle makes no difference if the saddle is a bad fit and there is a huge range of saddles between the price of $1,000 and $5,000. In fact, if I remember correctly, Kevin rides in a stock Corriente saddle which is in the price range of $600 - $800 (shipping included) depending on options and style. That price range is typically not a very well made saddle - typically (but the Corriente is a very well made saddle on a par with one that is easily double the price or more. SouthernTrails sells saddles in that price range also that are very well made and underpriced) My point is that price does not make a single difference as to fit.
     
    02-09-2010, 10:55 AM
  #20
Foal
Ok most everyone is talking about LEATHER saddles here. And I agree with the One size does NOT fit all. I'm sorry, a western saddle is just NOT going to fit my Lean and muscled 17 hh National Show Horse AND my mothers 16.2hh Fat rolly polly QH. Its just isnt going to happen, at least not comfortably for the horse.
Now, there are ways around this problem. Wintec makes synthetic ENGLISH Saddles where you can change the gullet size. For something like $20-30 extra dollars on top of the saddle (which usually run between $250 for the all purpose and all the way up to $1000 for say the Isabell Dressage) you can have a saddle that can be fitted to ALMOST any horse.
Saddles MUST fit correctly, there are SO many problems that can happen with an ill fitting saddle.
     

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