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post #11 of 18 Old 11-10-2010, 11:42 PM
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I don't think it's a bear trap. This is a bear trap:

Highback Beartrap Roping Saddle 15 Wide Tree Custom - eBay (item 170561537244 end time Nov-13-10 10:28:22 PST)

The swells (front of the saddle) on a bear trap jut out and are swept back to keep the rider in place. But because of the high cantle, it is a high-back.

I couldn't find any saddles listed as "loop seat" on eBay, but if you put in "high back saddle" you will find many similar saddles, in all price ranges. I think the maker of the saddle is what gives it value, along with condition. Yours looks to be in pretty good condition for it's age.

I checked my book "Saddles by Russel H. Beatie," and it says that loop seats started being made around 1885 and were popular up to around 1920. Your saddle also has "Texas skirts," which just means that it was the style of large, square skirt popular in Texas. (In contrast, round skirts are called California skirts, because they were popular there).

Well, that's about all I know, lol!
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post #12 of 18 Old 11-11-2010, 12:00 AM Thread Starter
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Do a rubbing of the brand/stamp. That way you can figure out who the maker is. I love old saddles. Yours is very nice.
thank you, I love old saddles too, what do you mean do a rubbing? It's pretty worn out.
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I think they mean to put a piece of paper over the maker's mark, then take a crayon or something similar and color over the paper to leave an imprint of the maker's mark. Then it might be easier to read.
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I don't think it's a bear trap. This is a bear trap:

Highback Beartrap Roping Saddle 15 Wide Tree Custom - eBay (item 170561537244 end time Nov-13-10 10:28:22 PST)

The swells (front of the saddle) on a bear trap jut out and are swept back to keep the rider in place. But because of the high cantle, it is a high-back.

I couldn't find any saddles listed as "loop seat" on eBay, but if you put in "high back saddle" you will find many similar saddles, in all price ranges. I think the maker of the saddle is what gives it value, along with condition. Yours looks to be in pretty good condition for it's age.

I checked my book "Saddles by Russel H. Beatie," and it says that loop seats started being made around 1885 and were popular up to around 1920. Your saddle also has "Texas skirts," which just means that it was the style of large, square skirt popular in Texas. (In contrast, round skirts are called California skirts, because they were popular there).

Well, that's about all I know, lol!
wow, ya, totally different when I google imaged "vintage beartrap saddles" this is the one I said looked really close although it doesn't show the whole saddle, scroll down it has a small description a little more then half way down but it says that one is a george lawrence, similar makrings ect but when I google those saddles none of them have the "texas skirts". Thanks for all the info! I also found this one on ebay which also says it's a beartrap but I can't really see markings or anything.
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I think they mean to put a piece of paper over the maker's mark, then take a crayon or something similar and color over the paper to leave an imprint of the maker's mark. Then it might be easier to read.
thanks I will try that, I don't know if it'll work though, it's pretty smooth lol.
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Wow, that is a beautiful saddle! Lucky!
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That is just plain beautiful. The fact that you have a history and a personal connection to it just makes it priceless.

As far as it being a beartrap, as Trailhorserider said, it isn't. A beartrap has large swells that sweep back towards the rider. Yours has more of an "A" fork, or "slick" fork design to it. 100 years old is a good estimate too.

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That is just plain beautiful. The fact that you have a history and a personal connection to it just makes it priceless.

As far as it being a beartrap, as Trailhorserider said, it isn't. A beartrap has large swells that sweep back towards the rider. Yours has more of an "A" fork, or "slick" fork design to it. 100 years old is a good estimate too.
cool, thanks, I just wish I could figure out who made it, maybe I will have to bug my grandpa again to find some more info...i tried the paper thing to see if I could get a clearer image of the mark but I almost think it's worse. Lol
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