Name Brand/Maker of this Saddle????

I really need to know if anyone can help me identify the maker or at the least the value of this saddle.. It has identical seat markings and other little things(like the rolled silver around seat) of a friends Circle Y but it has NO identifying marks at all!! Any help is greatly appreciated..

Definitely NOT a Circle Y.

It's one of the "no name"saddles commonly found on ebay.
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Not a Circle Y. Leather is too thin and the fenders are put on cheaply. Girth ring is kinda inexpensive looking too.

Its def not off of ebay, its been in a barn for about 30 years..not sure if all parts are original, I know its not a Circle Y, like I said no marks and any good saddle has a makers stamp/mark.. Its pretty well made but I am wanting to trade it off ofr something in a different color with out the silver, just need to know approx what value I am looking to trade.. I have had a few people want to trade pretty expensive saddles for it and I don't want to burn anyone or get burnt myself

Oh and compared side by side with my friends Circle Y, the leather on this saddle is as thick in most places and on the bottom skirt it is thicker

I was also looking at how the fenders are put on, as well as the "etched" look of the tooling.
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Yeah, I'm fairly sure that it is not hand tooled, but not 100%
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