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  • What bit is a little stronger than the josey mitchell long shank chain gag bit

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    08-16-2012, 04:22 PM
  #21
Foal
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Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
Maybe it's just my neck of the woods but I have never seen that happen. It seems to be a fear everyone has, but I play around with different bits all the time (mostly curbs) and never had a problem going back down to a softer bit. I don't know of anyone who has worked up to stronger and stronger bits.

I would rather ride softly with a curb than have to pull on a horse in a snaffle. Don't you think if you have to pull on the snaffle to stop the horse, you might be un-training the horse worse than if you use a stronger bit and the horse actually respects it?

I know in an ideal world the horse would not be running off in a snaffle either, but if that's the circumstance you find yourself in, I would rather use a bit that the horse responds to.

If you stay in a snaffle and have little control but feel like you MUST stay there because other bits are harsh well, at that point you are kind of in denial. Like cramming yourself into clothes that are two sizes too small. You are already at the point of the horse's mouth being dulled to the bit. And it's the snaffle that caused that, not the curb. A curb should sensitize, not desensitize.

But hey, I ride western. I know everyone who rides English won't agree with my warped logic.

I completely understand your logic, and I ride english haha. Its not that I would be using the bit im trying to find everyday, I would only use it for foxhunting (which isnt that often, once every few weeks or so) and then for field and trail riding (we never do one or the other, it is always both) I only ride 2-4 days a week, which mostly consists of ring work or polocrosse (which he has snaffles for). So if someone could just give me the name of a bit that is one step up from a kimberwick, that would be great. Thank you
     
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    08-16-2012, 04:34 PM
  #22
Trained
^ Fox hunting. That's what I thought you meant by "field."

I'm not an english rider, and I know what I would do for my western horses...but bearing in mind that you are english...

Maybe go up to a chain snaffle or a twisted snaffle? I know I suggested the twisted snaffle earlier and I'm not sure if you wanted to use it, but they are inexpensive, and not all of them are tiny little torture devices that people seem to constantly think they are.

Myler Dee Twisted Comfort Snaffle (MB 01T) - Level 1 - 89-21015T - Myler bits at 123Tack

^ I use that a lot. I used it on my barrel horse who was too strong when she got running for a smooth snaffle but too light for anything with shanks or gag. So, comfort twist.

You could also try a waterford or something similar.

Abetta O-Ring Snaffle Bit - Stainless Steel - 5"

Partial chain snaffle

Trammell Connie Combs Snaffle Bit - 5"

Or, you could always channel your inner barrel racer and get a six bit. This is the knock-off brand of the Sweet Six, a little gag but not much. LOVE this mouthpiece too. Probably my favorite. Tons of salivation, and kind but firm.

Kelly Silver Star 6" Cheek Copper Wrap O-Ring - Stainless Steel - 5 1/2" mouth
     
    08-16-2012, 04:37 PM
  #23
Trained
Here's another idea, have you thought of trying a mild combination bit?

Such as these?

Circle Y Martha Josey O-Ring Combination Bit 120

Professionals Choice Brittany Pozzi Combo Smooth Snaffle Bit and Western Combination Bits | EQUESTRIAN COLLECTIONS.COM

That was you can have some nose control too. It's a pretty light bit but has some more control than a snaffle.
     
    08-16-2012, 05:01 PM
  #24
Foal
I have been using pelhams alot lately and I use a jointed pelham on my hunt seat and calm mare
And a straight pelham on my saddleseat and high strung mare
     
    08-16-2012, 06:33 PM
  #25
Started
I think a pelham would be good as you can choose how much curb pressure you use.
     
    08-16-2012, 10:58 PM
  #26
Foal
Thanks guys I'll try the pelham in the next few days, theres a bunch laying around my tack room. I wish there was a place you could rent bits from! Haha
     

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