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    04-23-2013, 02:18 PM
Originally Posted by KSchingen    
Aren't they made to fit thoroughbreds?
They were made to fit European TBs originally, but breeds change over time eg. Thoroughbreds have got bigger, Welsh Mountain ponies weedier, Hanoverians generally lighter-framed.

IMO the number of riding horses that need deeper panels has increased and saddle makers are only now starting to deal with it (see the panels on newer Stubben models).
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    05-22-2013, 04:39 AM
Still on the hunt for a saddle. I have tried a cutback passier comet II and a cutback Kieffer aachen.. neither worked on him.. I'm starting to think the High wither thorowgoods are the only option anywhere near my budget.. The T4 is the only high wither model I can seem to find in the US though.. Looking for more opinions on the T4. I want to do dressage and some jumping with him..
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    05-22-2013, 08:55 AM
If it helps any, the tree point angles you need (assuming you've taken the wither template in the usual place 2" behind the back of the scapula) are based on straight lines drawn between wither and shoulder. I've used your template pic as an example.


This ensures the front arch runs parallel to the horse's shoulder both sides and also helps show what areas are likely to need extra flocking to balance the saddle correctly (the areas between straight lines and horse's actual shape) though it depends a lot on the individual saddle's panel shape.

The newer T4s (with stitched kneepad) are slightly more forward cut than the old model (plain kneepad) and ought to be fine for both disciplines, IMO, until you get to a level where you think you need specific saddles :)
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    05-22-2013, 09:15 AM
Yeah he is a medium to medium wide with any padding.. do you think there would be any hope for the kieffer with a shimmable correction pad? Or just I just send it back and fork out the $$ for the t4? I can try to take some pictures of how it fits him today if that helps
    05-22-2013, 09:17 AM
I wish people that were selling used knew what the tree shapes were
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    05-22-2013, 09:32 AM
If you template is taken correctly, the shape tells me he's a medium wide at least - there's no way he's medium. If you know anyone with Wintec gullets you could borrow, they're identical in width to the Thorowgood and a blue one ought to fit.

Otherwise, your only real option is to trace your wither template onto a piece of card (with the straight lines added) then cut it out and take it to the tack store with you. Then you can offer it up to the fronts of individual saddles and check the tree points - you should be able to see the ends of most - run parallel to the cardboard cut-out.

If you did the same to the T18 (loins) you could offer that up to the rear panels, to check the gusset looks deep enough to sit the panel on the horse's back across its full width. And the back profile might help you see if the tree shape is about right, though that's a more difficult judgement.

It's not an ideal way to judge suitability, but we're trying to make the best of an awkward job :)
    05-22-2013, 11:07 AM
Stubbens have 7 different tree widths, and a line specifically designed for the high withered TB. You could look for a used one or contact their website and they will respond.

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