Oh look. I was unaware the tomb thumb had suddenly become cruelty

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    08-14-2011, 08:01 AM
Oh look. I was unaware the tomb thumb had suddenly become cruelty

Lord save the sane people.
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    08-14-2011, 08:14 AM
Just a quick add-on, I know tomb thumbs CAN be cruel, but I never looked at them as so harsh as that. I've ridden a horse in one before and he's very soft and responsive to it.

What I dislike most is the nasty way he approaches it.
    08-14-2011, 08:48 AM
Green Broke
What is a tom thumb? Isn't it about the same as a snaffle but with cheek piece? How harsh is that?
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    08-14-2011, 09:40 AM
Any bit is harsh in the wrong hands. I have seen horses mouths bleed from just a plain o-ring snaffle bit. If this person thinks that a tom-thumb bit is harsh look at some of the roping/ dressage or high level competition bits! Those bits are made for high level people competitors too not just the horse. Sounds like someone just had too much time on their hands... ?
    08-14-2011, 10:10 AM
Green Broke
Again I agree with you rl.
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    08-14-2011, 03:53 PM
Originally Posted by mbender    
What is a tom thumb? Isn't it about the same as a snaffle but with cheek piece? How harsh is that?
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It's a poorly designed "transition" bit.

By no means is is close to a snaffle, as it's a bit with leverage. Mouthpiece makes no difference.

They're not harsh to a horse that can be ridden completely neck reined with little to no pressure to the mouth. That's about it. When you start taking up contact, and direct reining, is when it gets off and confusing for the horse, because of the design. Any bits harsh in the wrong hands, and you just have to understand the mechanics of each different bit.
Tom Thumbs really have no flexion to them, and are very straight shanked. Therefore, that makes them meant for more loose reined, neck reined stuff.

I partly agreed to that video. Yes, he kept ranting, but true snaffles are losing their meaning. I can say a lot about tiny, twisted wires, but if you never touch the horses mouth, then the bits just sitting there. Not much harm done. It all goes down to how each bit works, and where your horse is at in it's training to handle the different mechanics.
    08-14-2011, 04:02 PM

If you want to get all sides, there are a few threads about our friend Tom Thumb

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Hopefully that link works
    08-14-2011, 04:10 PM

The real problem with Tom Thumbs is that people assume it's a mild bit because of the broken mouthpiece, not realizing that the shanks make it a leverage bit. Because it's true action isn't understood, and it's often misdescribed as a snaffle, it's a bit that's ripe for abuse.

Agree with the DejaVu's post above
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    08-14-2011, 07:55 PM
Read this:

why do so many people object to Tomb Thumbs and dislike them?

Mods, we just need to have a Tom Thumb sticky. Seems like there are a half dozen new (identical) TT threads a week...
    08-14-2011, 08:36 PM
I read this entire thread, and I get the impression that each person knows one bit that will work for every horse. I don't. That's why I have a tack room full of bits. My horses are all individuals. I had one tiny mouthed arab gelding that was obviously in pain if I used a true egg-butt snaffle. I think that his mouth was so tiny that the broken bit hit his teeth just laying there. He worked great in a cheap grazing curb bit. I had to bend the top of it so that it would fit. I have a horse that will throw you in the dirt if you use a curb bit. She rides fine in a snaffle for me; however, my son can't stop her in it. He rides her in a (holds breath and cringes) Tom thumb. She actually seemes to like him better than she likes me and my 45 years of riding experience. What an insult. My arab mare that I ride now works fine in a big, fat, egg-butt snaffle. My point is, different horses and different riders make for the need for lots of different bits.
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