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post #1 of 26 Old 01-28-2013, 08:54 PM Thread Starter
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Online saddles? Custom, premade?

So, I'm looking for a new Western saddle, and I'm wanting to look around. Clem is a half draft with ~8.5 inch current Saddle gullet. I don't really know what I'd want to do with it no jumping or barrels or anything, so I figured either an all purpose, trail or endurance saddle, just for comfort's sake.

I'm looking for Black. A black, 8.5 inch gullet, 15 inch seat, trail saddle seems to be IMPOSSIBLE to find. I REALLY like this one that I posted, but it's a 7.5 inch gullet. It also seems that when I look at a saddle website, I can't advanced search, I just have to click a saddle and hope it's right. I don't really have any good tack stores around here, either.

So wheat are some good saddle hunting websites? I'm guessing I might have to have it custom made, but I don't have tons of money (~600 is the most I'd like to spend). I actually don't even really know what some good brands are when I'm looking on used saddle sites. Do you have any recommendations? Sites, brands? Custom makers?

This is the one I like, but is too small Width wise. I'm going to head out tomorrow to do a whither tracing and measure again just in case, to be sure, but her saddle definitely measures at 8.5

King Series Old Time Trail Rider Saddle - Holtz Saddle Co.

EDIT: Also, how wide is a draft horse tree? I've seen 10 inches. A lot of saddles just say "draft tree" so it seems they only have one size? I always see "Regular," "Wide," "Extra wide," trees without a measurement - do these have specific measurements to them that I don't know? :p

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You do not want a King Saddle, I have a pic somewhere of the tree from that saddle, used 2 times and broke, they are hollow fiberglass.

Everyone measures slightly different, but there is no true 8.5" Gullet made.

Most half drafts and even full drafts take a 7.5" gullet, very few take a 8", the 8" is for what I call table top, very flat at the withers, close to 98-100 degrees. 7.5" gullets are about 95-97 degrees

Download the x-wide Draft template on this site http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/thesa...ate-simple.pdf

Bighorn has some 7.5" and 8" draft Saddles that are fair in price and not import junk like the king

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Oh, okay. This is where I measured her saddle at - should I measure somewhere else?

And thank you! I'll print out the template. I'm heading tomorrow to see, as I haven't measured her - just her saddle, which fits her pretty well.
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Oh, okay. This is where I measured her saddle at - should I measure somewhere else?

And thank you! I'll print out the template. I'm heading tomorrow to see, as I haven't measured her - just her saddle, which fits her pretty well.

Under the conchos - not in front
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Oh, okay. This is where I measured her saddle at - should I measure somewhere else?

And thank you! I'll print out the template. I'm heading tomorrow to see, as I haven't measured her - just her saddle, which fits her pretty well.
Looks about a 7.5" too me

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under the conchos - not in front
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Looks about a 7.5" too me
... But if I measure under the conchos, it would be wider than where it's measured at now, wouldn't it?
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... But if I measure under the conchos, it would be wider than where it's measured at now, wouldn't it?
The Gullet is measure at the top of the bar, the spread is measured at the bottom of the bar.
Conchos are screwed into approx the center of the bar, so deducting for liner, fleece and flair of leading edge of bar a good reference is to go against fleece where the concho is and deduct 1/2"

Hope I said that correct, tired tonight

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The Gullet is measure at the top of the bar, the spread is measured at the bottom of the bar.
Conchos are screwed into approx the center of the bar, so deducting for liner, fleece and flair of leading edge of bar a good reference is to go against fleece where the concho is and deduct 1/2"

Hope I said that correct, tired tonight
Well crap. Literally everything I read said to measure in the middle of the conchos :p I'll go out and measure above and below them tomorrow too. And do the template thing. (Or the wire hanger thing, if I can find one) - I feel like measuring the actual horse might be more accurate.

I think I've heard of a few places online that, before they make a saddle for you, will ask you to send in a wither tracing, or send you a tree and have you take pictures and send them back before making it - though for the life of me I couldn't remember who does it, unfortunately :p
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If you dig your fingers into the fleece, grope around and you will feel the top edge of the bars. It will be below the screws that secure the skirts to the gullet.(one on each side).
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Well crap. Literally everything I read said to measure in the middle of the conchos :p I'll go out and measure above and below them tomorrow too. And do the template thing. (Or the wire hanger thing, if I can find one) - I feel like measuring the actual horse might be more accurate.

I think I've heard of a few places online that, before they make a saddle for you, will ask you to send in a wither tracing, or send you a tree and have you take pictures and send them back before making it - though for the life of me I couldn't remember who does it, unfortunately :p
If I had a dollar for everything bogus thing the Internet says about Saddles....

The Measuring between the Conchos you have read is a way to compare various Saddles against each other, but is not a way to measure and have one made custom.
I will not even make a Saddle based on the String or Wire method too unreliable. The Cardboard Template, Fit Forms or bare Tree is the only way to go when making a special saddle.

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