I worked for the manufacturer for several years. They are not quite as "good quality" as everyone would think. They are stamped out on an assembly line, sometimes you get a good tree and other times you will get a warped one. Quality control is not one of this companies finer points. Although made in America, the folks making them didnt know a horse from a cow most of the time....They are stapled during intial manufacture (the foam is stapled under the seat) I rode one myself barrel racing as a test and had problems getting a proper fit on the horse, getting legs too far forward, ect...... In my opinion, Id rather buy a good used quality saddle than buy one of these. If you are just trail riding I guess it would be okay, but definately not my choice..