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    02-06-2011, 04:41 PM
  #11
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Poseidon    
It's not meant to be bashing, just more of a concern for safety and quality. I know this was asked in the other thread, but I thought I'd ask again: Do you work for Hilason? You said you did not, but it would appear you have some kind of connection to this brand. Do you own one personally that you think they're so fantastic?
I don't see that she said anything about the actual quality of Hilason saddles. Only that there is nothing wrong with making them in China. There's nothing wrong with making anything in China. Or anywhere else. "Quality" is not a matter of where a product is made but HOW a product is made. I've certainly bought my share of junk made right here in the USA.

I, too, take exception to someone referring to something as "Asian junk." Junk can be made anywhere. Really good stuff can also be made anywhere.

Just my opinion. Now I'll get off my soapbox.
     
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    02-06-2011, 04:47 PM
  #12
Trained
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Originally Posted by SailorGriz    
I don't see that she said anything about the actual quality of Hilason saddles. Only that there is nothing wrong with making them in China. There's nothing wrong with making anything in China. Or anywhere else. "Quality" is not a matter of where a product is made but HOW a product is made. I've certainly bought my share of junk made right here in the USA.

I, too, take exception to someone referring to something as "Asian junk." Junk can be made anywhere. Really good stuff can also be made anywhere.

Just my opinion. Now I'll get off my soapbox.

It was more that Bitfree kept talking about and suggesting Hilason saddles in the Trick Saddle thread and it was determined that Hilason trick saddles are junk, but the other ones may be perfectly fine, but weren't relevant for the thread. It just seems...off.

I can't say much about poor quality saddles or the quality of saddles based on their area of assembly. I got my current saddle on eBay. It doesn't really have a brand. It was cheap, but it gets the job done and it's actually fairly decent quality.
     
    02-06-2011, 04:48 PM
  #13
Showing
What seat size do you need and do you need semi qh bars, qh or wide? I'll see if I can find what you need. A saddle can be put in the mail, it doesn't have to go courier. Wintecs are made in Australia.
     
    02-06-2011, 08:51 PM
  #14
Green Broke
Most Asian saddles use fiberglass trees. I have seen a Hilson in person. It definitely qualifies as Asian junk to me. No, it's not as bad as some of the Asian saddles I have seen, but it's still poor quality.
     
    02-06-2011, 09:12 PM
  #15
Green Broke
Most of the saddles made in Asia are not well made. There are a few exceptions, like Wintec which is made in Vietnam. However, MOST of the saddles coming out of Asian countries for export to the USA are not made well.
     
    02-06-2011, 11:25 PM
  #16
Weanling
I'm sorry, but I have a REAL problem with the term "Asian junk." It's a gross generallization. I"ve seen enough junk from Europe, Asia, Africa, USA, Canada, Mexico, South America, etc., that I could use ANY geographic area in from of the word "junk" and be as accurate and reliable as any other comment in this thread.

Fine. Some specific manufacturers make, in the opinion of some, junk. So be it. We've all seen it. But "Asian" is NOT a manufacturer and to denigrade the entire contintent just because you've had a bad experience with one specific product that is made there is nothing but stupidity and bigotry. Period.

If you don't like Hilason saddles, feel free to say so. But don't trash an entire continent just because you don't like one product.
     
    02-07-2011, 08:34 AM
  #17
Showing
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Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979    
Most of the saddles made in Asia are not well made. There are a few exceptions, like Wintec which is made in Vietnam.
Have to disagree here, luvs. Wintec is about as junk as other saddles (may be little better, but still junk). At least western ones (I think english is decent for the price, not positive where english one made though).

I agree about hilason though. When I was looking for treeless and asked horse people on my local forum I was told to stay away. We had some people bought the saddle and regretted it.
     
    02-07-2011, 08:41 AM
  #18
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by SailorGriz    
I'm sorry, but I have a REAL problem with the term "Asian junk." It's a gross generallization. I"ve seen enough junk from Europe, Asia, Africa, USA, Canada, Mexico, South America, etc., that I could use ANY geographic area in from of the word "junk" and be as accurate and reliable as any other comment in this thread.

Fine. Some specific manufacturers make, in the opinion of some, junk. So be it. We've all seen it. But "Asian" is NOT a manufacturer and to denigrade the entire contintent just because you've had a bad experience with one specific product that is made there is nothing but stupidity and bigotry. Period.

If you don't like Hilason saddles, feel free to say so. But don't trash an entire continent just because you don't like one product.
Aside from Wintec, every saddle I have ever laid my hands on that was made in an Asian nation was a POS. So, I use the term "Asian Junk". I am not trashing the continent, just its saddles . I am fine with my Asian made electronics, cars (we drive Toyotas), and a few other things, but the majority of their saddles leave a lot to be desired.
     
    02-07-2011, 08:44 AM
  #19
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
Have to disagree here, luvs. Wintec is about as junk as other saddles (may be little better, but still junk). At least western ones (I think english is decent for the price, not positive where english one made though).

I agree about hilason though. When I was looking for treeless and asked horse people on my local forum I was told to stay away. We had some people bought the saddle and regretted it.
I agree, I am not a fan of their Western saddles. However, their English saddles have made a big leap in quality in the last 5-6 years. One of my students has an AP saddle of theirs and another has an Australian saddle. They fit the horses very well, are well put together, are comfortable to ride in, and hold up well to use. I know many others with Wintec English saddles that are happy with them. They don't work for every horse (what saddle does), but that's usually not due to quality or workmanship.

I have heard from a couple of people that their western saddles have gotten better too, but I have not seen any in person in the last 4-5 years, so I can't say myself.
     
    02-07-2011, 08:50 AM
  #20
Showing
So is english one also Vietnam-made? I never really did a research on that because english wintec didn't fit my horses.
     

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