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    03-06-2008, 12:49 PM
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Outfitting my Arab

I just bought this saddle for my 25 year old Arab:


He didn't start training under saddle until he was 20 years old. He was a rescue.

I'm thinking of getting the following headstall and reins:



Now all I need is a saddle pad and bit. First of all, I currently ride him with a cheap knockoff of the "tacky too" type saddle pad with a fleece top and neoprene like underside. He does very well in it. I tried to switch to a Professionals Choice Air Ride pad and he hated it. I'd like to find a pad with the tacky too like underside that will fit better with the saddle I just bought. I'm having a heck of a time finding a place that sells pads that will fit an Arab saddle.

Secondly, I currently ride him in this:


When I tried him in a snaffle, he did terrible. All he was concerned with was trying to get the bit out of his mouth. I was thinking perhaps a curb bit would be better (once I get him trained for neck reining). I'd like to keep him on the hackamore but I don't believe I'd be able to show him. At this point in time, I am only planning on showing him in one show a year.

I ride my quarter horse and my sister-in-law's Arab in a C bit. I'm thinking of getting one for my Arab but wanted to get some input from you guys, first.



Here's a picture of him (that's not me in the picture ):
     
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    03-06-2008, 05:33 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Well I don't know if you going to consider my advise considering you think that im horrible because I hate my Arab. But.

Consider what other bits this horse has worked in. If it was worked in a curb before. If it hasn't I would start off with a tomb,thumb, then work your way up if you need to. I wouldn't go straight to a curb, you don't know how that horse will react to it. Again, unless its been worked in a curb before.
     
    03-07-2008, 08:10 AM
  #3
Showing
Nic, does it worse to put him on bit to show just once in year? He's already 25 years old and may not accept bit (well, I mean be happy with it). Is there any rules you can't show in hackamore (I mean the real one, not the one you are using right now, of course)? I guess it depends on show though.

What is the brand of your saddle? As for pads I saw this one (on different forum - discussion about arabs specifically):
" The best idea that I've found though, to keep her saddle from slipping, is to use a 100% wool felt pad that is at least 1 inch thick. I've had my saddle checked by a professional saddle maker, and it fits really good, however it still slipped. The wool felt pad seems to have fixed the slipping problem. I ordered my pad from the Jeffers Equine Catalog, at a cost of around $35 - $40. "
From my experience Jeffers has good quality products. You may want to contact them too for consultations (they have on-line consultation in day time).

BTW, he looks great! Real-real arab like on paintings. :)
     
    03-07-2008, 08:36 AM
  #4
Showing
You might look into a Skito pad. I use one for my short backed mountain horse. Your saddle looks similar to mine (but a lot fancier ) What type of cinch are you using? I find the neoprene have a tendency to slip, I'm a big fan of mohair. As far as the bit, whan was the last time he had his teeth checked? If that's not the problem I would find a C bit with as much tongue relief as you can get. Here is the Skito pad


Here is the bit I use. Its for gaited horses but you get the idea of the tongue relief
     
    03-07-2008, 12:24 PM
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Thank you all for your replies!

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Well I don't know if you going to consider my advise considering you think that im horrible because I hate my Arab. But.
Actually, though I obviously am not happy with some things that you wrote on other posts, I do value your advice. Your horsekeeping practices do differ from my own, and we disagreed on a topic which we will have to agree to disagree on. A forum will always have people of differing opinions and that's what makes it great. One person's method may work for some people but not others, and on certain horses but not others. It's important to get a variety of advice. We will all (hopefully) learn from one another, regardless of whether or not we like what we hear. Because I am upset about your views towards your Arab doesn't mean you won't be able to work things out with her. I actually really hope you do. I gave my opinion, hopefully taken with a grain of salt. If I were a horse, I'd be a hot blood, though I do try to control my temper. I definitely apologize if any of my comments were hurtful. They were not intended to be that way.

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Consider what other bits this horse has worked in. If it was worked in a curb before. If it hasn't I would start off with a tomb,thumb, then work your way up if you need to. I wouldn't go straight to a curb, you don't know how that horse will react to it. Again, unless its been worked in a curb before.
He has not worked in a curb before. The first time he ever had a bit in his mouth (full cheek snaffle) was five years ago. I have always shied away from Tom Thumbs because the ones I've seen are poorly made and it's easy to see how they would pinch a horse's mouth. I most likely only ever saw cheap Tom Thumbs, however. Can you recommend a good brand for me?

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Nic, does it worse to put him on bit to show just once in year? He's already 25 years old and may not accept bit (well, I mean be happy with it). Is there any rules you can't show in hackamore (I mean the real one, not the one you are using right now, of course)? I guess it depends on show though.
It is a very casual county fair show. I actually was considering calling the judge of the show and asking her if I could show him in a hack or a bosal. I actually do not even care if I place.. it's more the experience that I like. Do you have a recommendation on a different hackamore for him?

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What is the brand of your saddle?
The saddle is a Simco, model number 4037.

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BTW, he looks great! Real-real arab like on paintings.
Thanks! He thinks he's 5 rather than 25. One of his former owners went on and on about all the great and famous Arabs in his pedigree, but I judge a horse more meeting him "in person" rather than what it says on paper. I honestly couldn't tell you what his background is without digging his three inch thick (at least) papers out and checking! I love him to death, though. He was a stud for 17 years, and although I don't think he is exactly stud quality, he's definitely pretty.

Oh, and thank you also for the pad information/recommendations. I will definitely check that out.

Vidaloco, I really like that pad and especially the bit. I love how the bit is all in one piece on the sides so there isn't an opportunity for pinching. Thanks!

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What type of cinch are you using?
I use Country Supply's "New Breed" cinch. I use this on all of my horses and have had good results thus far. I have found that with smooth neoprene, slipping is a problem but with the more "pebbled" style, I haven't had trouble.

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As far as the bit, whan was the last time he had his teeth checked?
He gets his teeth checked annually and he does still have his wolf teeth. They very well may be causing a problem which is why I've been hesitant to use a bit thus far. I may just stick with a hackamore and if I can't show him, I'll just continue using my QH. I just thought Royale might have a bit of fun in the ring. He's such a showoff. :roll:
     
    03-07-2008, 01:01 PM
  #6
Showing
I was talking about something like

http://www.outwestsaddlery.com/html/...__mecates.html
http://www.lessismorehorse.com/bosal...ide%20shot.jpg

I actually had seen arabs with such and they looked really fancy. :)

In any case if it's just local show never hurt to ask - they may be very open on tack.

P.S. I know what you are saying about meeting horse in person. Got my 1st one like that too...
     

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