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post #11 of 20 Old 07-03-2009, 05:20 PM Thread Starter
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You are welcome. Sorry if you already knew a lot of what I posted.

Some of the things I see on TV in the 'bit and tack' department on international showjumpers absolutely amaze / horrify/ baffle me!

Once, as a 'challenge' I managed to identify and describe the use and action of, it must have been getting on for a hundred different bits. NOW there are 'mylers' and 'neue schule' and 'mikmar' and all manner of new bits which I still have to learn!

In the UK, a tom thumb is a totally different bit! Only in the USA have I heard the term 'tom thumb pelham'! Just a confusing difference between continents, I think!

When I ride one of my horses in a pelham, I use predominantly the snaffle rein for collection and bend, and if the horse gets a little 'above himself' (sometimes literally!) I use a gentle tweak of the curb rein to say 'oi you'! which enourages his head down and for him to round.

Often, when hacking (another confusing difference in continents - hacking = trail riding, I have discovered!) I knot the curb rein and leave them on my horse's neck, as my 'emergency brake' just in case he gets a bit 'psychotic'!

Be careful when schooling in a pelham that you don't use too much curb rein and create 'overbend' rather than 'roundness and outline'. It's very easy to think 'oh, this is nice, the horse is nice and rounded' and in fact the horse is overbending and going behind the bit.

Regarding mullen or low port, I really think it depends on what your horse likes in his mouth. Trying the mullen first is generally a good place to start.

You sound like you have a pretty good idea anyway what you are doing, so good luck in trying. If you need any more help, I'm happy to do my best.
Yeah, we trail ride (or hack:) a lot, so I would probably lay the curb rein on the neck, and when we ride in the ring, I'd use them both. He usually collects quite nicely when he's excited, but now, looking back it was him trying to get behind the bit.. Stinker Horse..

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post #12 of 20 Old 07-05-2009, 02:10 PM
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A mullen pelham (without rubber) and no bit converters works well for rate and a headset! You ride off the snaffle(top) rein, and use the curb(bottom) rein as needed! Or with lighter contact!
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post #13 of 20 Old 07-06-2009, 11:09 AM Thread Starter
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^ Metal then? Ok, I will price them.

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Just thought I'd tell everyone: I got the pelham!

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^ Who me?

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post #17 of 20 Old 05-19-2013, 01:58 PM
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Hi Kisvihar,
I found this post very interesting what you wrote about pelhams.
Could you please help me?
I have a horse with a small mouth, low palate, big tongue. I was advised to try the neue schule warmblood pelham, with a forward cut port, that is supposed to give generous tongue relief without causing upper palate interference.
I only use the pelham when I have to wear a double bridle for showing, and has he can't take two bits, I just use the one.
But as soon as I use the rein really lightly he throws his head up. Any suggestions as to what pelham would be best to try?
Thank you.
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If you get a jointed Pelham make sure it has a curved mouthpiece. (its confusing to explain, but if you message me I can explain better.
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Rubber Mouth:
http:///equisearch.com/horses_riding...allery/pelham/
**When I first saw this I thought it looked relatively mild, but heard that it can be hard to fit to the horse.
I used this pelham bit its amazing! thats what one I would go for honestly….
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I used the rubber mouthed Pelham to break in "Corporal" (1982-2009, RIP) and "Dandy Silver Moon" (sold, born 1982, too) to a curb bit from a snaffle.
I see no real purpose in riding with a jointed Pelham bc it acts a lot like a Tom Thumb. The question is how wide a mouthpiece to use. A small mouthed horse might have trouble with a wide mouthpiece on a bit, so I'd use a thinner version. A larger horse would probably do much better.
Still, I have used the rubber mouthed Pelham with my QH to train him to a curb, too, with some success.
I personally love the usefullness of a Pelham bc you don't have to get off and on in the same training session and rebridle to work with either snaffle or curb, and it makes a great trail riding bit later on with a converter.

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