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    06-02-2012, 07:13 PM
  #1
Foal
possibly buying this saddle -- opinions?

So I've been looking for the right saddle for myself for ages and I think I may have finally found it.
It's a Rocking R. I've never ridden in a Rocking R before, but I've heard many good things about them and they seem to be the best at that price range. I think it was a custom, because it doesn't look quite like any of the models in their catalog.
I'm pretty in love with it, I think it's really beautiful, so I just want to make sure I'm making a sound decision and am not overlooking something, because I'm so enamored.
I'll be buying it online, but will have 2 weeks to return it, if I'm not happy (but really don't want to have to do that, as it would be an expensive return).


I guess I should say, this saddle will likely, mostly be used for starting colts. Although, I may pick up something not quite as nice for training, as I'm not too keen about putting such a pretty saddle on a baby, who might find a way to damage it lol
I've gone back and forth between what type of saddle to get, but ended up going with a roping saddle, because I do want to learn to rope at some point and I figure it's got a decently deep seat, should I end up using it to start horses. I would've preferred roughout jockeys and fenders, but beggars can't be choosers...

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So, what do ya'll think? I'd be getting the saddle, breast plate, back cinch and bridle w/ reins (not shown in pics, but the woman said it matched the saddle and was high quality leather), for $700, including shipping.

Should I be at all concerned that it looks a bit dusty and like it hasn't had much oiling?
And what do you suppose the freckling on the right jockey is from? Do you think I'd be able to oil out the discoloration? What about the black scuff on the front of the swell (you can see it in the head on shot)?
What about the white looking residue on the leather of the rigging for the back cinch (visible in the shot of the left side of the saddle, right up under the jockey there)? That isn't mold is it?
And is it just me, or does the flocking look like it's taken twice the wear that the saddle has?
You can tell someone did some roping off of it, can anyone recommend how I should go about testing its structural soundness (this will be the first used saddle I've ever bought)?



Also, I'm slightly concerned, because I'm really probably more of a 15.5 seat size than a 16 (which is what this saddle is), but I'd rather go a little big on the seat than small. The problem is I have really short legs -- It often seems like on normal adult sized saddles the fenders are too long for me. I guess, I'd just have to sit in it when it comes and see if it will work. If those fenders are too long for me, is there anything I can do about it, short of like having the saddle refurbished with new fenders? Lol


Thanks in advance!
     
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    06-02-2012, 07:28 PM
  #2
Green Broke
I know nothing about the brand of saddle, but from the little pics I seen from my phone, its a nice little saddle.

If you decide to more roping, I don't like that much forward taper on a horn. It doesn't hold a dally as well, your dallies want to slide over the top unless you wrap your horn ridiculously narrow at the bottom and wider at the top to prevent that. But. If you wrap with rubber rather than chap leather(which looks to be on there now) you wont really have to worry about it.

If are stuck in the saddle all day as compared to riding 20 min. Here and there on a young horse, a team roping saddle will cripple you. For long days consistantly I would invest in a ranch type saddle. For short sessions on and off that saddle is fine.

For staring colts though, I would be leary, team roping saddles have a tendancy to stand you up in the saddle. They are not built for a deep seat usually. Ropers put their weight in their stirrups and this saddle might want to tip you a little forward, which I have found with most team roping saddles. For starting colts again I would go with a good ranch saddle.

If its possible, ride in it before you buy....
     
    06-02-2012, 07:33 PM
  #3
Foal
Thanks for the info! Definitely some things to consider.


So it's a team roping saddle? I was thinking that the 'association' roping saddles were the ones used for team roping [I know nothing though lol]
     
    06-02-2012, 07:41 PM
  #4
Green Broke
Association trees and a Will James tree is pretty common for a swelled fork style ranch saddle. Those forks on that saddle pictured don't have quite as much as a forward angle as some team roping saddles. But the horn has a more forward taper. I used to have an Assoc. Saddle but it was more " straight up".. the cantle, forks and horn.....

Is it possible for you to try it before you buy?
     
    06-02-2012, 07:51 PM
  #5
Green Broke
I have said this a thousand times on this forum...but if your looking for a good ranch saddle in that price range, look into a Corriente.

Smrobs on here has one that she ordered and loves and I know several others that have and loved them. Can't beat em for the price. And you can order the seat size and rough out fenders you wanted.
     
    06-02-2012, 07:54 PM
  #6
Foal
Not really.

It would be shipped basically across the country.


And here's my situation -- I've been out of riding for a few years, due to lack of funds and no where to really ride around here (my previous saddle was just a random trail saddle that was given to me for free by a friend who outgrew it and I have since given it away to someone else).
In August, I'm moving across the country, and going back to school for Equine Business Management and Horse Training Management. Hence, I need another saddle.
So I don't really have anywhere (or anything) to ride until I move :\
But I don't want to wait until the last second to try to find something either, which is why I'm thinking about jumping on this deal now.

These saddles seem to hold pretty good resale value, so I'm thinking if I really don't like it, it wouldn't be a total loss. It looks like it's in better shape than any of the other Rocking Rs I've seen selling for more money (although that does concern me a tad)

ETA -- I might be able to contact one of my horsey friends and arrange to ride. But I'd feel really weird calling someone up and being like "heeeyyyy, can I ride your horse?" Especially since most of my equine friends in the area are English people. So -- "heeeyyyy, can I ride your horse? And oh yeah, I want to ride in this western saddle..." lol.
And I don't know that I'd be able to make it happen in the 2 week return period.
     
    06-02-2012, 08:05 PM
  #7
Green Broke
I see what your saying.... like I said I know nothing about the brand.

But if the seat isn't the correct size and it isn't exactly what your looking for, its really not a bargain, IMO.

I am a smaller and have long legs so finding. A factory built saddle had been hard for me to find.(not sure if Rockin R is factory or custom)

I would consider looking at a Corriente for the same price you can get the seat size you want with the rough out. I think smrobs has an Assoc. And I have know others to get the Wade and been happy with it. Matter of a fact I seen another one this weekend at the local tack store used for sale, same price as a new...perhaps they hold their value...not sure.
     
    06-02-2012, 08:06 PM
  #8
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
I have said this a thousand times on this forum...but if your looking for a good ranch saddle in that price range, look into a Corriente.

Smrobs on here has one that she ordered and loves and I know several others that have and loved them. Can't beat em for the price. And you can order the seat size and rough out fenders you wanted.
I have seen you say that (i've been stalking these forums for quite a while)
If I can find a used one that fits my needs, I will definitely consider it.
Might be strange I guess, but I really don't want to go new, just because I HATE breaking in new saddles.
I've been keeping an eye out for a used Corriente, that I like but haven't seen one yet :\
     
    06-02-2012, 08:11 PM
  #9
Super Moderator
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Looks like an older Rocking R, the older Rocking R are great Saddles.

The old one are really great saddles for the price.

700.00 including shipping and the accessories is reasonable, I would try for 600.00 though

The white powder may be baby powder, many people use that on a new saddle to get the squeaks out

1/2" difference in the seat?, some people notice that some do not


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    06-02-2012, 08:15 PM
  #10
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by enh817    
I have seen you say that (i've been stalking these forums for quite a while)
If I can find a used one that fits my needs, I will definitely consider it.
Might be strange I guess, but I really don't want to go new, just because I HATE breaking in new saddles.
I've been keeping an eye out for a used Corriente, that I like but haven't seen one yet :\
LOL! A well built saddle shouldn't be hard to break in, it should feel right regardless of age!
     

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