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    12-24-2010, 12:16 PM
Do you think if I were to try a twisted wire should I just get an O-ring or a full cheek or what kind of snaffle? Also, would I want a regular twist, a slow twist or a double wire twist? And do you think i'd be better off looking for a thin mouth or a thicker mouth piece thing?

I think she does like a little bit more bit since she likes her show bit. I know lots of people around that have twisted wire bits so I can ask to borrow one before I go out and buy myself one; I just need to know what kind I should be looking for. :]
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    12-24-2010, 04:40 PM
I have 2, a thinner faster twist that's a egg but ring. I also have a medium slower twist that's an O-ring. The egg but I use for tune-ups and I use the O-ring more for every day (trails, fun games).
    12-24-2010, 04:57 PM
Forgot to add- I really don't care what kind of ring. Its doesn't seem to affect anything, however to some it might. If you would like, later I can try to post links of what my bits look like to get an idea of what I mean.
    12-25-2010, 12:10 AM
I've used a lot of different kinds of rings on her and they don't really seem to make a difference really, obviously since it has to do more with the mouth piece than the rings but then there's my other mare who actually does care what ring you put. I'm sure they all put a slight bit different pressure in their mouth. I'll see what I can find to borrow; i'll probably try her in a slow twist and see how she does. Thanks! ;]
    12-25-2010, 06:01 PM
I personally will never put any kind of twisted bit into my horses mouth. I believe in using the bit that my horse is most comfortable carrying and using my own knowledge and ability to make it as gentle or as harsh as it needs to be.

I have owned some horses with pretty bad issues - I have ridden every one in a smooth snaffle and when it cones down to a fight, I have won every time. You need to learn how best to manipulate the bit to get the desired effect.

The only time I will concede any kind of twisted bit should be used is on horses who may have nerve damage in the mouth and need that extra texture.
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    12-26-2010, 01:58 AM
I disagree, when you think about it, a super thin smooth mouth peice isn't going to be any nicer than a standard twist. I like my twist I think it all depends on the horse, just because one doesn't work well in something it doesn't mean the other horse wont work well in it either. None of my horses use the same bit. Personally i'd rather have a bit that will keep me and my horse happy and content then one that I will really need to use on him. I'd rather have a bit with a lot of "power" and me not need to use it then one with little and have my horse and I get frustrated.
    12-26-2010, 04:00 AM
My horses and I don't get frustrated because they learn to be soft and give to the bit everytime pressure is applied. The times I have had to stop a horse were horses with pee-existing issues that were resolved - the force used was an on the spot decision for my own and the horses safety. The pony I have started myself, a clean slate, would stop off my seat from about the fifth ride. I just sit and say whoah and she stops and runs back.

The bit sits on bone covered by gum - anything with corners or too much texture is going to create pressure points whenever the reins are picked up.
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    12-26-2010, 02:45 PM
Believe me, my horse has a great stop. I throw my hand forward and say "Whoa" and he sits down and stops. I gave the OP a bit to try her horse may like it and her horse may not. In the end it's her choice. My horse also gives every time to the bit. I put spur on and he drops his head and back up- no bit neccesary. In the above post you wrote you don't frustrated but then you also wrote every fight I win... normally fights come from frustration. Any way i'm not interested in arguing about a silly thing. It's everyones personal opinion. I hope I helped the OP.
    12-26-2010, 04:52 PM
In the end it's her choice.
Exactly - I was just giving another opinion as there didn't seem to be anyone in this thread giving the flipside on twisted bits - I personally think they are harsh and unecessary.

I am not here to argue with you, just giving my opinion, and clarifying the bits of my posts you didn't understand.

The fights I have had to win were on horses I acquired who were older and had some pretty big issues. I don't have an arena or any enclosed space to ride in so I have to ride out in open paddocks. The main horse was a 16h ASH who pulled like a steam train - And yes I had to use my strength to pull him up a few times in the begginning. After I owned him for a year or two I sold him to a young girl who is eventing him - And yes, she goes xc in a snaffle. Many people suggested to me a bigger bit, a stronger bit - But that's not what he needed. He just needed time and training.

My horses I have had from a younger age all go happily in a snaffle with no issues - And the main discipline I ride is mounted games which you would call gameing.
    12-26-2010, 07:07 PM
Originally Posted by wild_spot    
Exactly - I was just giving another opinion as there didn't seem to be anyone in this thread giving the flipside on twisted bits - I personally think they are harsh and unecessary.

I realize that twisted bits are not the IDEAL choice and I'm not dumb, I know that they have definitely got a bite to them and I would typically rather not use one but I'm trying to find something where this horse will be happy in a bit and I'm thinking she's happier in a little bit more of a bit. I do not want to put her in a curb because that defeats the purpose of what I was trying to get accomplished. I'm just looking for options on what I could try on her and a twisted wire is an option that is out there. This horse has a great stop and will listen to pretty much any bit that's thrown at her, but she's just not happy. Twisted wire is what I was personally thinking about before this post so that's why i've been jumping to try it. It wouldn't be a perminant thing unless she absolutely just LOVED it.

Also, The severity of the bit is nearly completely in the riders' hands. You can make an egg-butt snaffle harsh if you have hard enough hands and a twisted wire gag bit can be relatively soft if put in soft hands. I do ride as soft as possible, but like any horses, there is a time and a place to get after them.

I feel like bits are a very controversial subject here and I'm sorry for posting asking for a different bit If I'm told every option except the softest thing is going to hurt my horse. Yes, it very well could in the wrong hands. But in soft hands that know what they are doing, any bit can be used softly and nearly every bit has it's purpose.

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