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post #21 of 64 Old 07-19-2012, 10:48 PM
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Gypsy is an english rider and is supporting it?

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #22 of 64 Old 07-19-2012, 10:56 PM
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I don't get why this is such a huge controversy.

There is good and bad in EVERY bit depending on the person using it. If you don't like it, simply don't use it. Don't try to force your opinions onto others. Simply state it and be done with it.

I personally don't use it because none of my horses like it and don't need it. However, if I came across a horse that does like it and work well in it, I would use it.
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There are different chain bits that apply different pressures in a horse's mouth. So in my mind there are good chain bits and bad chain bits.. The previous owner of my mare, Lark, rode her in a bicycle chain bit. It's a VERY harsh and unforgiving bit in any hands. I will not ever put that bit back in her mouth..But, that said..She doesn't do well with other bits, such as a curb, snaffle..She rides okay in the Jr Cowhorse but just refers the light chain piece of the bit I'm riding with now. Right now I'm riding her in a light chain/gag/hack bit like ClaPorte said earlier in the thread. It's a really nice bit for her, she likes it, it's not harsh, but just because people hear the word chain they immediately assume it's harsh.
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just because people hear the word chain they immediately assume it's harsh.
Exactly

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #25 of 64 Old 07-19-2012, 11:25 PM
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^^^yeppers

I DON'T LEAD 'EM AND FEED 'EM, I RIDE 'EM AND SLIDE 'EM.
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post #26 of 64 Old 07-19-2012, 11:32 PM
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I keep seeing post from people who think anything other than a basic snapple is cruel, or a sign of a poor rider....our improperly trained horse.

Each to his own.

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Typo, maybe? I thought Snapple was a juice..

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I've always thought of how a bit would feel on my hand if I were to use it to pick up a small bucket of water; in my opinion, a double jointed bit would probably spread the weight the most evenly and be the most comfortable. A twisted bit or a chain bit would hurt like the dickens after a short while.

This is a very important point of mine: As I ride english, the horse is supposed to accept contact; you should feel some weight in each rein; the bit must encourage this. The horse can't be afraid of getting hurt/sore when they reach into that contact. In my opinion, some bits (regardless of the hands; remember that there should be some weight in the contact) greatly discourage this.
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Could someone please explain to me what the mechanics are of the chain bit, and why you would choose to use it.

I have ridden English and Western, so have a hoof in each camp.

Re Spade bits, as I understand it they are designed to be used only bu the most accomplished of horsemen, on the most highly trained of horses. The whole point is that the bit shows off the refinement of the partnership, by the almost invisible aids given.

Of course give the same bit to a heavy handed novice looking for extra brakes and you have a wreck in the making.
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This is a very important point of mine: As I ride english, the horse is supposed to accept contact; you should feel some weight in each rein; the bit must encourage this. The horse can't be afraid of getting hurt/sore when they reach into that contact. In my opinion, some bits (regardless of the hands; remember that there should be some weight in the contact) greatly discourage this.
This is an excellent point in the differance between western and english riders.

I seek to have my horses on the loosest rein, and lightest touch possible. There are times in training when I seek contact, but training is always done in a snaffle for me. Still, if I can twitch a muscle and get the desired response...I couldn't care less. To me, snaffles are great for training, but don't offer me the finesse I need on a strong horse in a high-pressure situation. When I'm running at mach 5 towards a barrel, I want to know that I don't have to pull on my horse to get him around there. A small twist of my wrist, a lot of leg and seat, and finally a desired, beautiful turn before we're off and running again. Same if I'm doing ranch work at the barn. English has a LOT of demands in its own right, and I highly respect that, but not every little thing can be accomplished as well in a snaffle as it can be in another bit.
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Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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