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  • Why can't you show in a synthetic western saddle
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    03-07-2009, 01:13 PM
  #11
Foal
I only had one saddle that wasnt all leather and it broke. I hate saddles that arent all leather. I only rode with mine one time. They are cheaply made and don't last. A leather saddle will last forever if you take proper care of it. To avoid injury I would stick with an all leather getup.
     
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    03-07-2009, 03:17 PM
  #12
Weanling
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Originally Posted by bilyeuamber    
I only had one saddle that wasnt all leather and it broke. I hate saddles that arent all leather. I only rode with mine one time. They are cheaply made and don't last. A leather saddle will last forever if you take proper care of it. To avoid injury I would stick with an all leather getup.
Woah Woah Woah Kiddo :p Just because you had a bad experience with one ride in a synthetic saddle (whose brand you did not mention) doesnt mean that they are all crappy saddles =) My Abetta, though I don't like it, is STILL working and going strong, and my Wintec is also in phenominal condition. I've taken good care of my Wintec, but i've treated my Abetta like garbage by putting it on horses who have never had a saddle on before. That saddle has been flipped over on, stepped on, etc, more times than I care to share and it is still very "safe" to ride in... it just doesn't look nice.

I also don't understand how -one- ride in -one- synthetic can give you enough information and knowledge to make a statement as bold as the one you made. I've ridden in 3 different brands and can tell you the positives and negatives of each... I just don't think its fair to say all synthetics are unsafe and will eventually break because you rode 1 horse 1 time in 1 synthetic.

Im sorry you didn't have a good experience with your synthetic, but it is just as easy (if not MORE easy) to "injure" yourself with leather tack. If you don't take proper care of it leather WILL crack, weaken, and break. If you don't take proper care of a synthetic, it just looks filthy, but it doesnt become dangerous. The place I learned to ride at -always- had cracked leathers on their english saddles and they would only get replaced when they broke (my dad had the leather on the lesson saddle he was using break while he was going over a cavaletti (sp?) and he almost REALLY hurt himself. Leather Breaks... Synthetic holds on (Or else they wouldnt use leather in Break-away halters... right? ^^)

Both my synthetic saddles (Abetta and Wintec) are -VERY- well made, and they are a great alternative to leather if you are looking for easy maintainance, a light weight, and cheaper price. Nothing beats the "look" of a well made hand crafted and tooled western saddle... I admit that.. but I by -no- means consider Synthetic Saddles unsafe... at least not the brands we have been discussing in this thread. I can't vouch for no-name ones.

If you buy a no-name cheaply assembed in (???) synthetic, yes, it will fall apart... BUT.. If you buy a no-name cheaply assembled in (???) leather saddle... it will fall apart too. I've seen more cheaply made leather saddles that have -unbolted- and had the skirts and fenders just fall off. Also, those same saddles had screws poking through the underside of the saddle and through the pad and dug into the horse's back.

Leather/Synthetic/Material does NOT make the saddle great... The assembly and ability to fit the horse and rider is what makes the saddle great.

What would you recommend for the poster to be the best fit for her? She cannot afford a well made leather Barrel Saddle (or else this thread wouldn't even be here), so she was looking into Brand Name synthetics to try to get a saddle at a better price that could still perform to her standards...

In my opinion, just saying that you hate synthetic saddles and that riding with them will result in injury really isn't helpful in this thread... If that's you're opinion, well.. then that's your opinion... but please try to provide some helpful advice for the poster, not just a broad negative statement. I came in and posted about how I hated my Abetta saddle, but I also said -exactly- why, then offered my suggestion of saddle choice to hopefully help her resolve her question. Being constructive is fun! =)

Don't mean to come on harsh, I just would love to see these forums stay constructive and positive! =)
     
    03-07-2009, 04:03 PM
  #13
Green Broke
I am a big fan of synthetic saddles (I have a wintec english ap and western) and have had great luck with them. Love the easy care , light weight and they have held up well (average riding time 4-5 days week, 2-4 hours).

With that said, I have just purchased a new saddle for my specific needs and fit for my horse, and it's leather (only because this company has not come out with synthetic). Really love the saddle. Not the care though.

Perhaps in your area they have horse consignment shops (we have them in Maine) and you might find a good quality leather for much less or even a synthetic for less. I love safe bargains!

Also, at most of our tack shops they have a previously owned area, found some great bargains there in the past too.

Good luck, hope you find what your looking for and for the price you want to boot!
     
    03-07-2009, 04:10 PM
  #14
Trained
We have 2 Wintec All Rounders and 1 of the Weaver ones you were looking at. The Wintecs have stood up for years without a problem. The billets on the Wintecs are definitely more durable than the Weaver, but otherwise the Weaver has been fine, too, and you certainly couldn't beat the price. Here's Cinnamon in the turquoise Weaver.

     
    03-07-2009, 04:23 PM
  #15
Weanling
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Originally Posted by PaintHorseMares    
We have 2 Wintec All Rounders and 1 of the Weaver ones you were looking at. The Wintecs have stood up for years without a problem. The billets on the Wintecs are definitely more durable than the Weaver, but otherwise the Weaver has been fine, too, and you certainly couldn't beat the price. Here's Cinnamon in the turquoise Weaver.

Gah!! Thank you!! I was looking for that SAME SADDLE to post here when I made my first post, LOL! I wasn't sure if it was Weaver or another brand though. I believe they also have Pink and Lime Green colors available. I wanted to get the turq. One for Dreamer-boo <3 They look very, very nice... Just enough color to look fancy! :p

And as for what Walkamile said.. AWESOME idea on the consignment stores! They usually have tons of leather western saddles of all kinds and all ages. I actually got my Collegiate Dressage saddle from a consignment store, along with a few other english saddles. And as Walkamile said, make sure you look 'em over to make sure the rigging is all safe, and the tree isn't broken.. Great suggestion!!
     
    03-07-2009, 04:40 PM
  #16
Foal
I know Abetta uses Fake Leather on the Swell (pommel), but I know some people that have several of the Abetta Saddles that are over 15 years old and are holding up well, of course all leather can last 50 years, but I have seen some leather saddles 15 years old that I would not give you 20.00 for.


CJ
     
    03-08-2009, 05:00 PM
  #17
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Skippy!    
The show I got points in was an APHA show. It was a standard class at what would be considered an otherwise "backyard" sort of show. I don't know how I got away with it... lol. This was back in 2004 or 2003 I think. Would that rule for the Apps only apply to ApHC hosted shows? Or any shows that give points?
The rule about no synthetics applies to any ApHC sanctioned show, where there were "judges" and points to be earned (not including the PAC points for open shows). That said, it's up to the judge to enforce the rule . I do know some judges who don't care if kids show in synthetics or for the speed events. But other judges are real sticklers and will disqualify you from the class.
     
    03-08-2009, 05:02 PM
  #18
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by bilyeuamber    
I only had one saddle that wasnt all leather and it broke. I hate saddles that arent all leather. I only rode with mine one time. They are cheaply made and don't last. A leather saddle will last forever if you take proper care of it. To avoid injury I would stick with an all leather getup.
A cheap saddle can be leather or synthetic. I have seen cheap leather saddles that have fallen apart MUCH quicker than my Abetta. It's all in the materials that the saddle is constructed from, whether that be cow hide, cordura, or equileather. Plus the tree is the most important factor, as that dictates the comfort of your horse and your rear end.

You can't say that all leather saddles are good and all synthetics are bad, that's just ridiculous... and ignorant.
     
    03-08-2009, 07:39 PM
  #19
Showing
We have an 18 year old Abetta, a 12 year old and a three year old one, they has been on several horses when they rolled at least 3 or 4 times each and maybe 10 times for the old timer, been drug and stepped on , wow don't have enough fingers and toes for that one, been swimming 100's of times, only has a small tear on the swell on one and a rip where barbed wire got one once and crazy glue fixed both saddles.

I also have a leather saddle that the stirrup leathers broke once, nothing is perfect, but you cannot compare these 150.00 Ebay synthetics or Imports to American Cordura.

I am not saying that because I want to sell you one, I quit selling them, but just because the do not deserve the bad wrap of being cheap and they falling apart, they hold up very well for something that is 289.00 brand new.



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    03-08-2009, 08:41 PM
  #20
Foal
Way back when I was taking lessons before I owned my own horse we would ride in Abetta and Wintex synthetic saddles. They were not quite as comfy as leather but they did get the job done. My mom purchased a half leather half synthetic Big Horn saddle for her horse about 4 years ago, and it really never fit quite right. So we ended up selling it and buy a full leather trail saddle.

I think in the long run you get your money's worth out of full leather saddle, just because they practically last forever if they are taken care of. I have a Jim Taylor barrel saddle that looks as new as the day I bought it. Would you consider a used leather saddle? You can probably get a name brand that has some wear for the price of a new synthetic. Look on Craigslist.com, or in your local newspaper.
     

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