Originally Posted by Barebackrider
yes I think you are wrong I have spoken to many saddle fitters and a lot say that bates wintec's brand of trees are a bad brand it was adjustable and we adjusted it a few time please don't take any offense it's just my and a few others opinion
P.S please don't take any offense I don't want to be the bad guy here
Wintec/Bates would NOT be so prolific if they were that cruddy of a saddle... I have owned two Wintecs with the changeable gullets and they never hurt any horse I used them on and never broke or became unstable.
The tree has to FIT your horse. The changeable gullet only changes the FRONT of the tree, not the WHOLE tree. So while you might have gotten the front to work, the rest of the tree might have been wrong for your horse. Or, you could have one of those horses that needs a hoop tree, which is more you shaped, instead of the more traditional V shaped tree.
There is MUCH more to saddle fitting than just the gullet width and angle. Wintecs can fit a wider variety of horses with their gullet plates, but they don't fit all horses, NOR do they claim to fit all horses.