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    01-11-2011, 12:48 PM
  #1
Foal
A Question About Trees and Padding in Saddles

Tell me what you like and don't like and why. Do you like the traditional wooden tree, metal tree fibre glass trees, or combination tree (wood and metal or vis versa...) Or treeless?

And what about the stuffing... foam, wool, Cair, or combination?

Let me know what you think... please!
     
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    01-12-2011, 04:33 PM
  #2
Foal
I dislike metal trees a lot. They are heavy and cumbersome and expensive to replace.
Fiberglass trees are awesome. Lightweight, economical, strong. But I love wood trees. They are tried and true.

Stuffing: Wool. It just absorbs impact well. A cair/wool combo is also great for stuffing. Not so thrilled about foam.
     
    01-14-2011, 11:46 AM
  #3
Foal
I agree with you on the trees, can't bet the good old fashion wooden ones... but fibre glass follows in a very close second for me.

Metal I do not like tham at all... for the same reasons as you, but also because these style of trees tend to be not as forgiving as the wooden and Fibre glass... I.e. Not shaping to the horses back as nice... and the repair jobs that I have seen on metal trees, kinda scary as well (very poor and weak weilds, causing the trees to break again...) and costly!!

Wool, yet again I agree with you, and same goes for the Cair system. The foam, really is not econmical because once the foam has lost its structure, the cost to replace it, in most cases out values the saddle... :(

Now here's another question for you, where do you stand on exchangeable gullet systems / saddles? Or the automatic adjustable tree systems that are becoming very popular in most dressage saddles? And the treeless saddles?
     
    01-14-2011, 05:41 PM
  #4
Foal
I have a Wintec with an exchangeable gullet. I found it out after I bought it, so it didn't really make me want to buy the saddle anymore than before. I've never changed it. People tell me its really easy if someone shows you how to do it, but I had no need to change it, so I really can't say personally how I feel. I think its about your style of riding, and how much you need to alter your saddle. I'm sure one of these days I'm going to be asked to hop on a bony, narrow TB, and I will then change the gullet. But until then, all I know is that it is convenient if I should need it, but I have yet to. Good Luck :)
I've never tried treeless, but I would love to:)
     
    01-14-2011, 07:45 PM
  #5
Foal
Hmm... kay, I understand... the treeless I would love to own. I rode in one a few times during lessons, its incredible the feel you have of the horse... truly and experience in my opinion!
     
    01-14-2011, 08:01 PM
  #6
Trained
For a western saddle, I prefer wood. The bars need to have some flex, and I'm not convinced the 'flex-tree' saddles flex as reliably as a good wood one will. I once owned a Ralide tree saddle, and won't own one again.

I haven't tried an English saddle with all wood.

I have a Bates saddle with interchangeable gullets. In a perfect world, I think I would prefer all wood. However, if I get a different horse, it would be nice to spring $25 on a new gullet instead of $1000 on a new saddle. I don't know what happened to all the bags of gold in my house, but we seem to be fresh out...

I've only changed the gullet once. My mare seemed to get irritable at times, and she was on the edge between a med-wide and wide, so I took out the wide and put in the med-wide. It seems to have solved the problem, and it only took me 5 minutes.

I don't dislike CAIR, but I have stuffed panels in an Australian saddle, and I think I like it a little better...not much.
     
    01-14-2011, 11:30 PM
  #7
Foal
I have an all wood english saddle. I don't know much about the model but I know it's all wood. I love it. It's a Germania.
     
    01-14-2011, 11:40 PM
  #8
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by bsms    
For a western saddle, I prefer wood. The bars need to have some flex, and I'm not convinced the 'flex-tree' saddles flex as reliably as a good wood one will. I once owned a Ralide tree saddle, and won't own one again.

I haven't tried an English saddle with all wood.

I have a Bates saddle with interchangeable gullets. In a perfect world, I think I would prefer all wood. However, if I get a different horse, it would be nice to spring $25 on a new gullet instead of $1000 on a new saddle. I don't know what happened to all the bags of gold in my house, but we seem to be fresh out...

I've only changed the gullet once. My mare seemed to get irritable at times, and she was on the edge between a med-wide and wide, so I took out the wide and put in the med-wide. It seems to have solved the problem, and it only took me 5 minutes.

I don't dislike CAIR, but I have stuffed panels in an Australian saddle, and I think I like it a little better...not much.
Just curious, why don't you like Ralide? I know they are considered a cheaper tree, and my "good" saddles have fiberglass covered wood trees, but I also have a Bighorn saddle with a Ralide tree, and it has never given me a lick of trouble and I've had it for about 15 years now. Have you had a bad experience with Ralide?
     

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