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post #1 of 6 Old 10-30-2011, 04:42 PM Thread Starter
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Ready to Move Out of a Snaffle Yet?

My gelding, Specs, is 12 years old and all I've ridden him in is an O-ring snaffle (except at shows, I usually use a tom thumb because that's the only curb I have around, and i have to show in a curb because its 4H rules.)...
He has lots of problems with the Tom Thumb, (like head throwing/general uncomfortableness), and I kind of wanted to move out of the O-ring into a curb. Not because he's out of hand, but because I think he's mature enough to be
He can...
Neck rein well
Plow rein when needed to
One-rein stop fairly well
Rollbacks (we're working on it)
Barrels (fairly well)
Poles (well)
WP (what I know of it, we're not good yet though.)
back up (really well! it's his specialty! :P)
he has a soft mouth in his Oring snaff
he is pretty responsive to my cues
I can ride him bareback and bridleless (with only leg cues! )

Would you say he's ready to be moved out of a snaffle into a low port curb?
thanks.

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My question is, if he does all those things well, why do you want/need to move into a curb?

If you're ready to move up, I suggest you familiarize yourself with the different bits' actions. I like to transition them first into a gag or draw bit to prepare them for the different mechanics. Then I switch to a moving curb. I really am not a fan of solid curbs at all. I personally like Argentine snaffles, either two-piece or dogbone, but a lot of people disagree. In your situation, however, I think that a low-port, swivel bit like a Myler or Billy Allen would be the natural progression. Those are very versatile bits.

Also, have you had your horse's teeth floated? Tom Thumbs are terrible bits for numerous reasons, so I don't blame your horse's bad reaction, but are you certain there is not a physical component as well?
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My question is, if he does all those things well, why do you want/need to move into a curb?

If you're ready to move up, I suggest you familiarize yourself with the different bits' actions. I like to transition them first into a gag or draw bit to prepare them for the different mechanics. Then I switch to a moving curb. I really am not a fan of solid curbs at all. I personally like Argentine snaffles, either two-piece or dogbone, but a lot of people disagree. In your situation, however, I think that a low-port, swivel bit like a Myler or Billy Allen would be the natural progression. Those are very versatile bits.

Also, have you had your horse's teeth floated? Tom Thumbs are terrible bits for numerous reasons, so I don't blame your horse's bad reaction, but are you certain there is not a physical component as well?
Because I can't show in a non-curb bit, and switching only for shows is a little risky, because he's not familiar with it. :)

Ok I'll look into them! What about this bit:
AT Low Port Loose Cheek Low Port Western Bit 5in - Horse.com
Is that similar to what you were describing?

Well, he gets his teeth done yearly, so I'm assuming his teeth are good! We have those problems with the TT all the time, whether it's right after he gets his teeth done or long after, so I'm assuming he just reacts badly to that particular bit.

Thanks! :)

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Yes. That is a good bit for you to try.
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Ok I'll look into them! What about this bit:
AT Low Port Loose Cheek Low Port Western Bit 5in - Horse.com
That's a really good bit to try. Another one (that I have and very much enjoy) is this one: NP Sweet Iron Loose Cheek Western Curb Bit 5in - Horse.com
It's just a bit different than the one you posted because the mouthpiece has no movement at all, but it still has independent sides and a very short shank. Both would be great general use curbs for your boy. :)

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A lot of horses respond badly to tom thumbs.

The low port bit you posted is one that is commonly liked by a lot people. It's well put together and the mechanics of it aren't too hard to figure out.
The spread out, even port that's comfortable in most mouths, it swivels in several places for more movement and freedom of the mouth, and shorter shanks.
I wouldn't hesitate at all to put it on my own horse.

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