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    05-18-2010, 10:38 PM
  #1
Weanling
Question The Rope Halter: One question..

I recently went to take a lesson at anotoher barn to gain experience around other horses and get tips from a different trainer/instructor. Well I didn't care for it there because the lady didn't seem to know much at all.

She said one thing that sparked my interest though and it was:
"Never tie a horse with a rope halter because they could seriously hurt themselves around the poll area."

Is this true or was she just coming up with false logic? Because I have been tieing the horses I work with,with a rope halter for a long time and nothing bad has ever actually happened.
     
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    05-18-2010, 10:47 PM
  #2
Foal
She is probably refering to if said horse spooks and pulls back. The pressure applyed by the rope is a lot more than if the horse was wearing a nylon/leather halter.

And if the peson hasnt fitted there rope halter correctly where the nose part is too low. Horse pulls back, that slips over the nose and can go into the mouth, and said horse breaks it jaw (i have seen this happen).
     
    05-18-2010, 10:51 PM
  #3
Weanling
No she clearly said that the horse's poll will bruise and break. Like I said she wasn't the most trustworthy trainer ever.
But now that you mentioned that incident... it makes me think about tieing my horses with them. I am very careful though of how I fit and tie my rope halters. That someone just made a very careless mistake it sounds like.
     
    05-18-2010, 10:56 PM
  #4
Banned
It also has to do with the fact that rope halters are one solid piece....no metal that breaks or comes apart. One time my TB stepped on his lead rope, and the snap popped right off. I was using a generic lead rope with a generic web halter.

If I had been using his current rope halter/lead combo, he could have seriously hurt himself because it would not have broken since its all one piece.
     
    05-18-2010, 10:59 PM
  #5
Green Broke
Ive been taught always tie your horse with a rope halter. Always teach them to give to pressure first though, so if they pull back they will feel that pressure and give in. If my horse was stupid enough to pull back so hard to cause damage to herself I would be nervous that she was crazy.

But that's just my opinion :)
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    05-18-2010, 11:00 PM
  #6
Trained
If stepping on a lead rope seriously injures your horse you are not out very much.

If a horse pulls back in a rope halter then it may end up a little sore in the poll. I would think that would remind the horse to not pull back.
     
    05-18-2010, 11:05 PM
  #7
Weanling
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
If stepping on a lead rope seriously injures your horse you are not out very much.

If a horse pulls back in a rope halter then it may end up a little sore in the poll. I would think that would remind the horse to not pull back.

Exactly what Im thinking. My horses don't pull because they know to give to pressure and if they did decide to pull either the lead rope could break or they could learn a lesson to not pull and not act stupid(horses have their moments I know).

But everyone is welcome to their opinions I guess.
     
    05-18-2010, 11:10 PM
  #8
Foal
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Originally Posted by ShezaCharmer    
No she clearly said that the horse's poll will bruise and break.
like I said
"if said horse spooks and pulls back. The pressure applyed by the rope is a lot more than if the horse was wearing a nylon/leather halter" im talking about pressure applyed to the poll. So yes the horse will end up with a brusied poll.


And as for horses learning not to to pull back after feeling the pressure. This is a mith also. I've seen plently of horse pull after time and time again. I know of one horse that was known to pull back, pressure sure didnt stop this horse. The trainer wasnt told this, and the horse pulled back and thrashed almost injuring the trainer. Horse thrashed some more and smashed it's skull into the metal beam in the tie up bay. Horse didnt make it.


     
    05-18-2010, 11:44 PM
  #9
Banned
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Originally Posted by ShezaCharmer    
Exactly what Im thinking. My horses don't pull because they know to give to pressure and if they did decide to pull either the lead rope could break or they could learn a lesson to not pull and not act stupid(horses have their moments I know).

But everyone is welcome to their opinions I guess.
I guess this only works with a certain type of horse.

Ice will fight forever with you about being tied, and as soon as he's loose, he'll stand there for days. I tried to 'desensitize' him to the whole pressure on his head thing with no luck. He was in the round pen for a good hour, stepped on his lead rope quite a few times, reacted the same every single time. I can't imagine if someone tried to hobble him what a disaster that would be.

To his credit he is very smart. He just does not like to feel trapped.
     
    05-18-2010, 11:55 PM
  #10
Trained
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Originally Posted by justsambam08    
I guess this only works with a certain type of horse.

Ice will fight forever with you about being tied, and as soon as he's loose, he'll stand there for days. I tried to 'desensitize' him to the whole pressure on his head thing with no luck. He was in the round pen for a good hour, stepped on his lead rope quite a few times, reacted the same every single time. I can't imagine if someone tried to hobble him what a disaster that would be.

To his credit he is very smart. He just does not like to feel trapped.
He wouldn't fight with me forever. He would fight with himself and he would NEVER get loose until I let him. I doubt that hobbleing him would be much of a disaster. I have heard similar things from clients and as soon as they are out of sight I start tieing and hobbling thier horse and it is never as bad as what thier owners think. I guess it all depends on what you consider a fight.
     

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