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post #11 of 18 Old 01-11-2010, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
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Lol. That's very true, it is quite fun. But yeah, you have a point about the rein restriction, it bothers me now and again as well. Bumping up the bit isn't really an option for him though because he is BEYOND picky. He is naturally quite the head tosser, and although he's gotten so much better than he used to be (with and intermediate/advanced riding it's virtually non-existent), if you put anything in his mouth other than a D-ring french link, the tossing ensues. So my options with him are either handle him without the martingale and risk forgetting the course (I have a hard time with it as it is xD) or using it and deal with the rein restrictions.

ETA: There's only a certain extent to which a martingale can be unnoticeable to a horse. You should be able to use an opening rein with it, but there will always be some interference. It depends on how sensitive the horse is.

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post #12 of 18 Old 01-11-2010, 09:59 PM
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I use one on one of my mares once in a blue moon. When she is out of work for a bit, as she is now, she gets very excited when we go back to jumping. She is a naturally high headed horse and when we go over bigger stuff, she gets the Grand Prix Showjumper thing going on and flips her head up sometimes. However, this is pretty rare and as I said I only use it once in a blue moon. She is a VERY powerful jumper and many BNT's have looked at the way my martingale was adjusted and said it was correct. I take their word for it. I rarely take it out on XC and if I do, it's when we are schooling bigger jumps that she has never seen before (at heights she has never seen before). I haven't used it for quite some time now.

It is a useful tool when used in the right hands but it should not be used for headset as many people use it for. I leave mine long. Long enough that she has to put her head up REALLY high for it to be effective, which I think is the whole goal. If you would like to see how mine is adjusted, there are pics of it in my virtual barn under my horse Javah.

I will NEVER use a standing martingale on a horse. I had a horse a couple summers ago that I was taking care of for her owner while she was away. She said that I should always use a standing on her when jumping because "she puts her head up too high". I refused to jump her with it and she did just fine. I think it restricts the horse's head way too much and is more of a fad than a useful tool.

oh and just to add, I've never used a "real" running martingale. I've always used the attachment that goes on the breast plate. I think it's a lot more adjustable and I like the fact that I don't have to buy two separate pieces of equipment.

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post #13 of 18 Old 01-12-2010, 02:19 AM
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I would use a running martingale as a safety measure , and only when showjumping , eventing or doing lots of fast work.

In my opinion they are like an airbag on a car - I would rather have one and not need it , than need one and not have it. Most of the time it would not be necessary , but on the odd occasion it has helped regain control of a wayward mount .

Many ( if not most ) of the top GP show-jumpers are ridden in running martingale - this does not mean that either they or their riders are incompetent - just that the type of activity that they are doing releases lots of adrenaline / serotonin into the bloodstream . With those two chemicals a normally placid animal can get a bit wayward - and if you are in a showjumping competition you need to regain control fast - you don't have either the time or space to ' faf around ' .
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post #14 of 18 Old 01-12-2010, 05:18 AM
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I use a running martingale on my arab - Adjusted very loosely. I had never thought about the adrenalin side of it before - And now I do, I realise that it is only in high-adrenalin situations that he will sometimes flip his head - Jumping isn't the only high adrenalin activity out there! Even going for a good gallop out on the trail is high adrenalin. In a normal situation, it isn't needed. He is highly educated, and has sucessfully competed in a number of disciplines, but as I now think, it is just when the adrenalin pumps that he may flip his head. As Nutty said, I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it - So I have it on him everytime anyone else rides him.

I also agree that a martingale is not a training aid - It doesn't teach anything or aid in teaching anything when used properly.

I will also use a standing martingale on him for the same purpose - Adjusted just as loosely as the martingale. It has never caused an issue - He understands pressure very well. I use it for mounted games because it doesn't interfere with my reins at all - And in MG your reins can get in some hoghly unorthodox positions, as well as having to come over the head and back in a split second.

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post #15 of 18 Old 01-13-2010, 07:23 PM
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Im starting to use one on my mare because when going into canter she flicks her head up and then bucks,i don't want to use one but i don't fancy her bashing me in the face!! I know its not me because she does it with other people.

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post #16 of 18 Old 01-13-2010, 07:44 PM
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I'm a little confused. I use a martingale whilst jumping at my riding school, but its just used to stop the reins from going over his head. What type of martingale is that? Should I not be using it???

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post #17 of 18 Old 01-13-2010, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkEquine View Post
I'm a little confused. I use a martingale whilst jumping at my riding school, but its just used to stop the reins from going over his head. What type of martingale is that? Should I not be using it???

From another post here I can tell you that it is called an Irish Martingale. The only purpose is to keep the reins from flipping over the head and they are fine to use. A running martingale has two straps with rings attached to the end and the other end attached to the breastplate or girth. The reins run through the rings and help drw the horses head down when pressure is applied.

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post #18 of 18 Old 01-14-2010, 01:23 AM
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Oh OK! I was worried there for a second! Thanks for clarifying, kevinshorses! :)

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