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    12-30-2009, 08:36 PM
  #31
Green Broke
Ditto to all of the above, you say the words I want to, but can't phrase lol!!!
     
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    12-30-2009, 10:17 PM
  #32
Started
So, what do you guys think of all the horses running around the CCI***/**** courses with running martingales?

According to you guys, those riders are not riding correctly and just masking problems their horses have. And they should quit riding because they're a disgrace to the sport (kidding here). But really, I'm pretty sure those riders KNOW what they're doing.
     
    12-30-2009, 10:23 PM
  #33
Yearling
Dont mind me.... I started posting then realized I was thinking about something else
     
    12-30-2009, 11:13 PM
  #34
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Originally Posted by My Beau    
So, what do you guys think of all the horses running around the CCI***/**** courses with running martingales?

According to you guys, those riders are not riding correctly and just masking problems their horses have. And they should quit riding because they're a disgrace to the sport (kidding here). But really, I'm pretty sure those riders KNOW what they're doing.
I'm not sure you understood some of the posts. I use running martingales on some horses, especially on XC, but are precautionary equipment. They are adjusted correctly and are not engaged unless the horse's head is way out of the correct position.

This mare always wore one on XC.



This stallion wore a sliding running martingale (standard ones make sharp turns difficult). This is my absolute favorite running martingale, but almost impossible to find. BTW, excuse my horrible XC equitation. This was only training level and my stirrups were longer than I usually ride in.



As you can see, this will not be easy to engage. It is adjusted so that only extreme positioning will engage the martingale (as seen by the slack in the slide at the breastplate.


This little 15.1 package of pure athlete always wore one. He could be a real **** on XC, if allowed. My leg is hanging low on the offside due to my riding with a fractured leg. Not the most fun I had on an XC course.



What I DID say, is I never use it to position a horse's head!!
     
    12-30-2009, 11:41 PM
  #35
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No worries, Allison, I wasn't referring to your posts. Mainly to the posters who are totally anti-martingale. I always use one on my horses on XC, precautionary, like you.

Martingales have a place, they are much less of a "gadget" then, say, draw reins, which I've also used. Like anything, they need to be in educated hands.
     
    12-31-2009, 07:23 AM
  #36
Foal
I have found this thread to be most interesting. I also think that the OP went away and isn't reading it any more, but others are still learning from it. I've seen so many "knowledgeable" riders that were doing what they were doing because someone told them to or because they saw someone else doing it and really had no idea what or why they were doing what they were doing. A good horse trainer knows that nothing takes the place of proper training. Sometimes the training needs to be done on the rider.
Just my opinion.
     
    12-31-2009, 10:16 AM
  #37
Green Broke
IGO am anti martingale Jen an uneducated rider is using them, as the OP is. She is being told to use it as a fix to her horses problem, not as a precaution on a dangerous course.
     
    12-31-2009, 10:24 AM
  #38
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Originally Posted by StormyBlues    
IGO am anti martingale Jen an uneducated rider is using them, as the OP is. She is being told to use it as a fix to her horses problem, not as a precaution on a dangerous course.
Help me...what does IGO mean?
     
    12-31-2009, 10:46 AM
  #39
Foal
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Originally Posted by maura    
Anybody want to guess the last time the OP posted in this thread?

I am sure this thread will continue on for pages as experienced horsepeople debate training philosophies, etc., and that will be an interesting read, but I think we alienated the OP a few pages back.

If your intent in posting in this thread was to educate, inform or help, consider whether or not your tone or style of posting was likely to achieve that goal. Would you listen to an expert on a subject you were a novice in if they phrased their advice in this way?
I try to stay objective, but I am learning that it is accpetable to "standing ovation" other people's post... So, THANK YOU! You certainly said what I was trying to say in my first response. I gave the OP my thoughts, and I hope they were of help. But everything got slowly picked apart. I try to take people's tone and turn it into a question to better my own understanding. That doesn't make me an "uneducated" rider. I just want to expand my personal knowledge, but when it comes down to it, everyone does things differently. I learn that everytime I have to (unfortunately) switch trainers. Its just a bummer to have to re-learn the little quirks.
     
    12-31-2009, 11:19 AM
  #40
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
Help me...what does IGO mean?
I don't know. I was typing on my iPhone and it auto corrected I and when to igo and Jen
     

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