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        10-06-2013, 09:18 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Red face Saddle dilemma

    So my papa has agreed to get a pony I think, but like my other thread (Long grass? Slew) he has said some things I don't agree with. This time it's with a saddle. He has two old and dirty western saddles, so he said that he wouldn't have to get new ones. There's some problems with that, A) they are probably really tough and shrivelled up and worn from being in such an old and dirty barn, and not being used for more than a decade, and probably covered in mouse, spider and cat crap B) I will not ride western! No offence to western riders, but I just can't do it! I am fully English, and multipurpose saddles are best for what I do (dont ask, it's just basic riding). How should I approach him? Should I buy it myself? (That will take a few years after we buy the pony!) or should I wish for one for Christmas? Does anyone know a usual running price for them, so I can get an idea?
         
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        10-06-2013, 09:36 PM
      #2
    Green Broke
    Clean up the western saddles. Saddles can last a long time. Clean off all the stuff, and then oil them a lot. Check it over, you might find that they need repairs or new parts.

    At least that way you know where you stand. If they're not serviceable you can look into purchasing a new saddle. Or you may be able to sell them and use the money towards buying your own saddle, or use one meanwhile until you have the money for an english saddle.

    I think to get a sort of economy range but still decent english saddle new you're looking at around $1000 (usually including synthetics) however you might get some a bit cheaper on sale/online. Your best bet is probably going to be getting a good quality second hand saddle, which you might get for $250 - $500 depending on your area and the saddle.

    Remember the first priority is fitting the saddle to the horse which can be harder than you think. You want something that's going to fit the horse well, fit you well and be durable. For this reason I recommend you never buy anything without a name. Whether it be a brand, or a saddle maker. Research it first, there are reviews of saddles from all the major brands out there online, if you can't find information about it I'd steer clear.

    It's great if you can get it as a gift or something, but make sure you are actively involved in the choosing process. It needs to be tried on your horse and sat in by you before you can be sure it's the right saddle.
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        10-06-2013, 09:37 PM
      #3
    Green Broke
    Well, you won't even know if its going to fit your pony first of all. It would be like adopting a child and just buying it shoes. If you bought a size 6 and the child is a size 8 your going to have one sore foot.

    While a western saddle isn't ideal for english riding, riding in one doesn't automatically mean your riding in a western style. It's merely a different seat.

    .... And then there is always bareback.

    Prices are going to vary. If you buy cheap and new you will likely get a piece of crap. If you buy used and good quality its going to last longer, but that's can cost between $700-$1000+. Good quality, brand new... $1,200+.

    Saddle should be an investment. If you buy a good quality saddle it should last you a very long time as long as its properly cared for.
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        10-06-2013, 11:43 PM
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    Started
    Keep an eye out online. You can get pretty good deals on high quality used saddles online if you wait for the right buy. It may not the most beautiful or glamorous saddle out there, but you can get a very functional one of reasonable quality that can hold you over until you can get a nice one. Over the summer I got a Collegiate close contact for under $200 because it has a small tear in the seat. I've seen the same saddle regularly selling for $400+ without the tear, and since it has not presented any issues I think that I got a good deal.

    It sounds like even though you are fortunate enough to have family willing to buy and pay for a horse for you, you will likely be responsible for buying any "extra" tack. If that's the case, start saving your money now and maybe begin looking for odd jobs to help pay for such expenses. Normally I would say just suck it up, condition and care for those western saddles and live with what you have, but saddle fit for both horse and rider can be very important. For these reasons you need to be able and willing to buy a new saddle in the event that those don't fit you or the horse anyway. If you're going to be buying a new saddle anyway, then you might as well get one that you want ;)
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        10-06-2013, 11:54 PM
      #5
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by MinuitMouse    
    So my papa has agreed to get a pony I think, but like my other thread (Long grass? Slew) he has said some things I don't agree with. This time it's with a saddle. He has two old and dirty western saddles, so he said that he wouldn't have to get new ones. There's some problems with that, A) they are probably really tough and shrivelled up and worn from being in such an old and dirty barn, and not being used for more than a decade, and probably covered in mouse, spider and cat crap B) I will not ride western! No offence to western riders, but I just can't do it! I am fully English, and multipurpose saddles are best for what I do (dont ask, it's just basic riding). How should I approach him? Should I buy it myself? (That will take a few years after we buy the pony!) or should I wish for one for Christmas? Does anyone know a usual running price for them, so I can get an idea?
    Beggars can't be choosers, I think, in this case. Your dad is going to buy the horse and I'm guessing care for all of its immediate necessary needs, but if you want a saddle beyong the ones you have (which are probably just fine and workable) you'll probably have to spring for it yourself since he said he didn't want to buy another one. (To be honest if the westerns are in workable condition I wouldn't either).

    And as other posters have said - you have to get the horse before you buy a saddle. Who knows, maybe the westerns won't fit and you can convince him to sell them for an English one! And the saying goes for a NEW saddle anything less than 400 is to stay away from. But you can get some decently priced used ones. Look for known brands that are being sold used - that's your best bet.
         
        10-07-2013, 09:56 AM
      #6
    Foal
    (It's my grandpa not my dad btw :))
    I found some tack on a website, there were really good deals for most of it, and I think they are known brands, but I'll look into that. I will get some saddle soap and conditioner and clean them up and see if they're usable, but I don't think he will sell them, because they were his wife's horses saddles, and now she has passed ;.(
         
        10-07-2013, 10:11 AM
      #7
    Teen Forum Moderator
    Are you sure that you're ready to be buying a pony if you wouldn't even be able to afford a saddle for "a few years"? How long have you been taking riding lessons?
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        10-07-2013, 11:13 AM
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    Started
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    Originally Posted by Endiku    
    Are you sure that you're ready to be buying a pony if you wouldn't even be able to afford a saddle for "a few years"? How long have you been taking riding lessons?
    That IS a question that you need to ask yourself. You may be in the fortunate situation where your family will pay for the horse and all of its upkeep/expenses but YOU need to buy all of the extras and rider stuff, but if your family truly can't afford the extra expense of a saddle, what would happen if a $500+ vet bill comes up for the horse?

    Assuming that all of those issues have been discussed and addressed, make sure that the tack that you're looking at is quality stuff. "Known brand" does not necessarily equate to GOOD brand- especially if you're able to buy it new for an inexpensive price. I'd recommend running a google search on any brand/model of saddle that you find to see if anyone has posted or asked for a review of that saddle. If you can't find the info that you need, post on here to see if anyone has any experience with it.
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        10-07-2013, 12:20 PM
      #9
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by MinuitMouse    
    (It's my grandpa not my dad btw :))
    I found some tack on a website, there were really good deals for most of it, and I think they are known brands, but I'll look into that. I will get some saddle soap and conditioner and clean them up and see if they're usable, but I don't think he will sell them, because they were his wife's horses saddles, and now she has passed ;.(
    STAY FAR FAR AWAY from saddle packages. If a saddle is being sold new with a breast collar, bridle, etc for a reasonable price DO NOT BUY IT. It's a mistake so many people make, and then they end up with a 300 dollar saddle and equipment that hurts the horse and falls apart. I would STRONGLY advise posting a thread and asking some opinions on the saddles you're considering to get input from the ones who have done this before before buying since you're a newbie at it.

    Read this thread to learn more about it.
    So you want to buy a cheap saddle package?

    And the above posters bring up a good point. If you can barely afford the horse what will you do when a vet bill pops up? I recently had to bring out the emergency vet for Clementine because she choked. That was a several hundred dollar bill RIGHT as school was starting and I had rent to pay, tuition, board, the internet bill. All at once. With no job. To be honest I didn't have the money for it and I took out another student loan to pay for everything. It's okay to not have a reserve vet fund AS LONG AS the horse will get vet care if it needs it.

    I still don't have a reserve fund. Still pretty strapped for cash. But if she needed a vet again she'd get one hands down and I'd find a way to pay for it. You have to think about things like that and what you'll do and how you'll prepare. Horses are walking accidents waiting to happen - you've gotta have a plan for the day you bring your horse in and its lame, or has some big gash from god knows what, or has a bout of colic or chokes. Unfortunately horses are money eaters even after the initial cost of them.
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        10-07-2013, 12:59 PM
      #10
    Trained
    You can always find deals on used saddles, you just have to have the time and patience to look. I got my older Stubben Siegfried fully fitted out for $275. Same saddle usually sells for $400-500 on eBay.

    Also, what's so bad about a western saddle if you're just dinking around anyway? Older western saddles actually tend to put you in a fairly decent position and can be quite comfy. Suck it up and deal with it for now, then get what you want when you can afford it. As has been said, "beggars can't be choosers."

    That being said, I agree 100% with Endiku.
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