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post #1 of 10 Old 08-23-2009, 12:29 AM Thread Starter
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Saddle fit questions.

I know people probably get tired of question after question on this subject. I have even had this type of question on here before. But this time it's a little different. I have a little bit of a grasp on saddle fit. I just ordered one from Jeffers. It looks like a great saddle with unbeatable value, but I don't think it fits at all and I am wondering what to try next.
The one I just ordered is the Wintec All Rounder with the semi- QH bars. It's supposed to be 6.5" gullet width. But it looks too wide to me. You can see how the saddle tips down in the front. It sits too low I think. I need one either more narrow or a different angle right? Would a 6.5" gullet reg. QH bars be better or worse. I am also wondering about an extra height and narrow gaited horse saddle by Big Horn? I think the angle of the semi QH bars are fine. Staying the same gullet width but changing the angle to reg QH bars wouldn't help would it?
Just any tips or info on what I need to try next would be helpful.
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post #2 of 10 Old 08-23-2009, 12:49 AM
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It is definitely too low in the front. I know hardly anything about western saddles so I can't tell you what kind of bars you need but you definitely need a narrower tree. =)

In the first two pictures the saddle also looks like it's kind of "popping" up off the horses back, maybe that's just an effect of the too wideness of the tree.

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post #3 of 10 Old 08-23-2009, 04:09 AM
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I know nothing about western tack, but I agree with Wallaby, it is too low at the front.

Ask Nutty Saddler, he's good with this stuff.

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post #4 of 10 Old 08-23-2009, 04:37 PM
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It actually lookes like a better fit without the pad, as far as how the front of the bars follows the shoulder. I think it's a good fit, you just either need a taller pommel (higher gullet) or a pad that lifts the front of the saddle, like a built up pad or a Skito Correction pad with a lift front shim. You use the Skito pad over a blanket or thin felt liner pad.

Here are some built up pads:
Big Horn Tuffy Cut Back Saddle Pad 7905 (you can cut off that strap at the front, it might dig in to the withers and doesn't really serve any purpose).
Reinsman Cutback Built Up Square Saddle Pad
Saddle and Tack Warehouse – Built-up/cut Back Pad (Western Saddles And Tack, Saddle Pads)#
Reinsman Saddle Pads @ Kyhorse.com
Apache Southwest Built Up Cutback Saddle Pad: Saddles Tack Horse Supplies - ChickSaddlery.com
Diamond Wool Built Up Ranch Pad

To test this theory, get a thick towel or saddle blanket and fold it over afew times. Lay it over the front of your pad, then put the saddle on and cinch it up. If it works, then the change in saddle pad should do the trick.
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post #5 of 10 Old 08-23-2009, 04:57 PM
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Huh, I guess you learn something everyday, I always thought that the gullet/pommel and saddle width were directly related, like if it's too wide the pommel will be too low and vice versa. Interesting.

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post #6 of 10 Old 08-23-2009, 07:31 PM
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The angle of the Bars looks good, I do see in the pic where the Saddle is cinched, I think the Saddle need to slide forward a little and the Skito Correction Pad LTR mentioned will be required.

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post #7 of 10 Old 08-23-2009, 10:46 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all the input.
I'm thinking I should just send this saddle back instead of trying to rig it with a pad. Because that is what I do with my old saddle. That's the main reason I bought this saddle. Trying to get one that truly fits good. I just wish I new of a saddle that would fit perfect. A built up pad would help some but still not be ideal. Because it still wouldn't take up enough room under the gullet to get as much clearance as I'd like.
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post #8 of 10 Old 08-23-2009, 10:51 PM Thread Starter
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On second thought, maybe some horses just need a built up saddle pad? I just wish I didn't have to spend more money to find out...
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post #9 of 10 Old 08-24-2009, 12:06 AM
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Your horse looks like she's lacking in topline. My DH's gelding is like that, with taller withers too. I have yet to find ANY western saddle that will fit him without a specialized pad. Skito pads are a real godsend with all the interchangeable shims you can buy. I think I have 6 sets of shims, lol. I try to find a saddle that's close in fit (like the one you have posted) and then use different shims to get it "just right".

Now, English saddles on the other hand are no problem. My DH has an old circa 1920s McClellan that fits like it was custom made too. These horses with some withers and non-table-flat-backs just aren't easy to fit in western saddles! Pfft... lol
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post #10 of 10 Old 08-25-2009, 07:27 PM
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You need a narrower tree
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