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    09-17-2012, 12:27 PM
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Foal
Saddle Fitting?

This is one thing I have a hard time with. I have never had a problem with any of my horses before but... My new horse is showing saddle soreness, so I am hoping some of you saddle savy people might be able to help me. I will give the main things going on and I will post pics ASAP. And if this is in the wrong category please tell me

I have a 12 yr QH Paint mare approx 15.2 hh 1000-1200 lbs hard to say. I got her about 3 months ago. She is very well trained and starting to learn barrels. She has not way high withers but a little higher then normal and LARGE shoulders with a very short back.
She started showing some dis comfort with her bit so I got her teeth floated (which was well needed!) I rode her 3 days later and its been all down hill! She's fine tell we start trotting then she pins her ears back and bends her head and neck only to the right and doesnt bite my foot but acts as if she wants to. She also is very cinchy now. My guess is she was focused on her teeth hurting now that they are not she realises how bad my saddle fits.

Anyways I have a cayose saddle, 7/8 bar, 14 in seat square squrting. I use a 1" wool felt pad that has wither cut out and spine releif holes. Is there any recomandations on what type of saddle I should be riding her in. Wider or narrower bars. I am so confused on how to see what is better for her. Thanks for all your help!
     
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    09-17-2012, 01:19 PM
  #2
Foal
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Originally Posted by Allaboutdreams    
This is one thing I have a hard time with. I have never had a problem with any of my horses before but... My new horse is showing saddle soreness, so I am hoping some of you saddle savy people might be able to help me. I will give the main things going on and I will post pics ASAP. And if this is in the wrong category please tell me
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    09-17-2012, 01:35 PM
  #3
Showing
Lets back up here, her mouth needs more times to heal because of the moisture. It takes about a week or a little longer. Sharp points cause cheek ulcers. Hard to tell from the pics. Make sure the bars aren't on her shoulder blades. Place it on a little high and rock it sided to side until it finds it's spot and then it will be much harder to rock. I'm more inclined to think it's her front hooves if she's displaying that much displeasure. In the second last pic her front hooves don't look like she's been properly trimmed, not just the last trim but a number of trims. It could be the sand making them look not good.
     
    09-17-2012, 02:05 PM
  #4
Foal
I asked the vet and he said she would be fine after about 3 days but now it has been over a week and she still acts irritated.
Pretty sure the bars are on her shoulds, the saddle I normally use isnt on her shoulders as much but its sits to low on her withers barely 1 finger clearance. I have done the rocking test and its lands in the same spot. I've tried different saddle pads, tried sitting it a little farther forward and a little farther back and it all just seems like it comes back to her shoulders not having enough room to move. She also has a choppy stride doesnt the also usually mean not enough shoulder room?

Yes her feet have definitely been abused in the past. When we got her she had shoes on that they said were on her for 12+ weeks!!! My husband shoes and her toes are still to long but have to take her down slowly or else it will hurt her more in the long run and she is at 7 weeks with these shoes so ready to be re done.
     
    09-17-2012, 02:38 PM
  #5
Green Broke
Well first of all I'm seeing pictures of two different saddles. The saddle sits far to low, period. Can't tell much else from the pictures but have you tried a fqhb and sqhb? How do the sweat marks look?
     
    09-17-2012, 02:52 PM
  #6
Green Broke
First - nice looking horse.

It may well be a combination of things going on with her that need to be resolved. I agree with Saddlebag - mouth is not in a good place yet and her feet may be sore also. With regard to the saddle, from what I can see is that it does not seem quite right at the back end in that it just looks like it is not sitting 'flush' (please bear in mind I haven't got my new glasses yet so may be missing the obvious). That means when you're on her, then the saddle is pushed down on her back more and hence may be uncomfortable or touching unevenly. I also feel there is not a great deal of wither clearance. So, further investigation is required. Can you post pictures of the back view?
     
    09-17-2012, 02:58 PM
  #7
Foal
Oh shoot lol I didn't realise I put the wrong picture. I have 2 saddles and I was going to put the other one on. The saddle without no pad is a sqhb. I have not tried a fqhb because if the 7/8 sits to low on her withers pretty sure a fqhb would be worst but not sure. What do you mean by to low? The sweat marks is what worries me the most her hole back gets wet her spine and everything and everything I have read is you don't want that. Other then that her spine gets wet theres no un even hair twirled the other way or anything. And she hasn't developed any rub marks. I think that maybe over the years of having a ill fitting saddle she has developed muscle astrophy because she seems to have a dip from her withers to shoulder correct me if I am wrong but isn't that usually what it is caused by?
     
    09-17-2012, 03:03 PM
  #8
Foal
Yes I will get out there and get pictures of a back view with and without saddle. She does ride on her front end a little bit more. I do think a lot of it is confirmation as well do to her big shoulders and high withers. The synthetic saddle sqhb has 2 finger gets clearance and the full leather fqhb had barely one finger clearance. To help it come off her front and be more even along her back what size saddle or pad could help this?
     
    09-17-2012, 03:09 PM
  #9
Green Broke
Ok, I am not a western person but from my understanding wither clearence has nothing to do with fqhb or sqhb. Different types of saddles will have higher or lower clearence in the front, no matter the bar type. You will need a saddle that fits her there. I cannot tell from the pictures what bars you need. And isn't 7/8 just the type of rigging? I didn't think that had anything to do with bars or gullet height?
     
    09-17-2012, 03:17 PM
  #10
Foal
Ya I have heard about being able to get higher gullet? I got told by the tack store guy that that was the size of the bars. Like I said I am not a expert on saddles or saddle fitting. Ya I think I am going to have to do a lot of searching to find the good saddle for her.
     

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