First off, I love my treeless saddle(Barefoot Cheyenne)...it's like a cloud on my butt. It works great on rocky and napoleon. The only thing is I can't get the girth in the right position(maybe I have the wrong girth?) it sits pretty far back(on every horse) and gets in the way of my leg cues. When I use it on rio, who is all leg cues he gets confused and grumpy. If I go bareback he understand the cues and gets better. I am frusterated. I don't want to buy and uncomfortable saddle, but I want my horse to undertand what i'm asking him.