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    12-17-2010, 12:31 PM
  #1
Foal
Saddle pad moving and putting stress on the withers?

Sorry about the title, I couldn't think of any better way to describe this My problem with my saddle pad is, when I ride it always ends up really tight over the withers. I suppose it is probably due to poor saddle fit? (I never ride long/hard because of this fear) My saddle pad is a wool felt, it is contoured, and it has the cutout to go over the wither area. Before I cinch up, I pull the pad up into the gullet. But then as I ride, the pad weasels it way down and gets tight over the withers.

I'm just wondering if anyone knows if this is something caused by incorrect saddle fit or placement or . . . Something else? I wondering my maybe I cut my saddle pad in the front if that would help, then my pad would fit more like a real "cut out" saddle pad, it would be fully split in the front instead of having just that cut out oval area (hope I am making sense there there ).
     
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    12-18-2010, 08:37 AM
  #2
Green Broke
Pictures would help. Take them with and without the saddle pad, lightly cinched up. Then take them after your ride. Take a full side shot, showing the whole horse. Take a 3/4 front angle showing the whole shoulder and front of the saddle (NOT a close up of the withers). Make sure the horse is standing on level ground with his head in a neutral position (not on the ground).
     
    12-19-2010, 01:23 PM
  #3
Foal
I tried to take some photos a couple moths ago, but the viewer/screen on my camera is broken, and now the battery is dead and my battery charger is at boyfriends house - but he will be here for xmas, so maybe I can get some better pictures then (but now it's all cold and he's super fuzzy.)

so anywho, if my photos aren't helpful, I understand. Okay, I already know they aren't

I have been looking to buy a new saddle, and I'm hoping to get one next spring for my b-day. There is a nice tack tack shop about 3 hours from where I live, and they are really great at saddle fitting, so I am thinking I will purchase from them. Right now I am thinking about a lady reiner by Crates, with and equi-fit tree. Probably something similar to this http://www.cratesleather.com/images/saddles/4521.png, but I obviously I don't know yet if that would be the right choice for me/my horse.

Unhelpful picture #1:


And, a close-up of the withers :


Annnd, a body shot with legs cut off and not standing on level ground :

(don't look at his short tail. It's growing. It wasn't much more than a nub when I got him )
     
    12-19-2010, 01:26 PM
  #4
Banned
I think the solution would be, your saddle isn't tight enough. Maybe look at a new girth?
     
    12-19-2010, 02:36 PM
  #5
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by EquestrianBabe    
I think the solution would be, your saddle isn't tight enough. Maybe look at a new girth?
Hmm, well I think that if your saddle fits nicely it shouldn't slip around to much, even if you don't have it cinched too tightly. One good thing is that my saddle doesn't roll side to side and it stays put when I am getting on, but once we start moving, it slips way back. The girth stays in place (And I am getting a new girth for xmas, from artcords. Com ), but my saddle reallly moves back.

I am pretty sure my saddle has arab bars, since the pitch/angle of the bars seems to be quite flat, and even though it was almost 15 years ago that I got this saddle, I remember my mom saying we were "looking for a saddle with an arab tree", because, well that's what I had at the time . This is the first stock type horse that I have ever had.

I think my saddle fits me okay, it has a 15" inch seat which is roomy enough me, and I can ride in it all day (though have not ridden my horse all day in this saddle, because I am so fearful about the fit.) I do sort of feel like the saddle pushes me forward a bit which I don't really care for. I'm not crazy about the round skirt anymore, and most of all I hate the color! If you noticed that my stirrups are a different color and don't match, I got myself some Nettles stirrups and I got them in sort of a lighter color because I want my new saddle to be a lighter oil .
     
    12-19-2010, 04:14 PM
  #6
Green Broke
Its hard to tell with your pictures, but to me it looks like the saddle pinches at the withers & there isn't a lot of room under the gullet. If that is the case then I don't think its your pad.
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    12-19-2010, 04:27 PM
  #7
Green Broke
In your last photo she looks to have a high and long wither. I am sure with her conformation the saddle would slide back and have trouble with wither clearance. I had the same issue and I don't know what your budget is but I bought a Steele and have plenty of clearance now.
     
    12-19-2010, 04:52 PM
  #8
Showing
You might want to think about getting a breast collar for this horse/saddle combo.
     
    12-19-2010, 08:44 PM
  #9
Foal
I don't know if it's the angle of the photo but in the first shot the saddle looks too far forward and is interfering with the shoulders
     
    12-19-2010, 09:27 PM
  #10
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverSpur    
i don't know if it's the angle of the photo but in the first shot the saddle looks too far forward and is interfering with the shoulders
This is what I think also. I'm sure the rigging on my saddle is 7/8, and I think it would better if I found something with the rigging farther forward/full position.

I've never had the gullet resting or riding on the withers, so I think I have enough clearance, but I know I could be wrong. The gullet width is 6 3/4", not sure if that is really that narrow.

I've thought about using a breast collar, but I don't want to use one to force the saddle into place, especially if I am putting it too far forward in the first place.
     

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