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post #1 of 16 Old 06-11-2011, 07:31 PM Thread Starter
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saddle sliding off

wifes a newbie and to ease into things she bought a cordura western saddle...Cinching that sucker as tight as possible when she puts weight into the stirrups it starts sliding. Horse isnt bloating out..cant get it any tighter...does it with or without blanket....any suggestions?
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post #2 of 16 Old 06-11-2011, 07:39 PM
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Sounds like you need a saddle that fits the horse. Saddles are not one-size/shape-fits all - it is like buying running shoes; it is imperative you get a good fit.
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I agree with JDI, my bet is on the fact that the saddle doesn't fit the horse. My guess would be that it's far too narrow.

Can you get some pictures of the saddle as it sits on your horse?

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Does your horse have noticeable withers? Those that come without saddle anchor points are tougher. I had an Arabian mare who had withers, but they ended about where the saddle started, so not much luck. However, she didn't have a round back either.

Some other things you can consider...use a different type cinch. Some 'grab' the bottom of the horse's chest better (this one is good for that, IMHO Professionals Choice SMX Roper Cinch - Statelinetack.com ). Change the pad under the saddle. I like wool felt, but it doesn't grab as much as some others do. This one has more grab to it (Reinsman TackyToo Microsuede Saddle Pad - Statelinetack.com).

You could also look at mounting techniques. A mounting block can help a lot. Also, make sure you are close to the horse, and get your weight centered over his back ASAP. If you are further away, it puts more torque on the saddle. As soon as you are high enough, lean a bit over the back so the weight is balanced on top of the saddle and not on one side.

Also, I've been taught that my left hand goes in front of the withers, and my right hand on the rear of the saddle, so that all the weight doesn't concentrate at the cinch. Hopping a bit as you are about to mount can help a lot too.

The two horses I now own both have long, tall withers. I swear that if I ever buy another horse, he'll be no more that 14.2 in height and have good withers.

Here is an oldie but goodie thread on mounting techniques:

Mounting using the horn

Editing to add that cinching down with the force of Thor isn't a good technique. I've done it, but my horses were happier when I used a good fitting saddle, the right pad & cinch, and good technique for getting myself off the ground.
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I second bsms!! Hyper cinching is not the answer.
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post #6 of 16 Old 06-14-2011, 09:06 PM Thread Starter
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2nd saddle try

ditched the cordura one...bought a second saddle, its a nicer leather one...still slides around more than it should. A fellow experienced rider said horse is low withered and we will always have trouble fitting a saddle...any suggestions???/
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Gotta love those mutton withered horses, I have a couple myself and it is hard to find a good fit for them without buying a full custom saddle with a tree built to fit them. One thing to consider is getting a breast collar, if you don't already have one. It will just add a bit more stability to your saddle and will keep it from sliding all the way down their side/under their belly in an extreme circumstance.

Other than that, what you might think about is getting a saddle pad that is a little less slippery. Felt pads tend to slide less than fleece pads and there are stickier options out there like neoprene, though I don't particularly like that and neither do my horses. A cheaper option might be to buy a woven saddle blanket like one of these and use it underneath your saddle pad.

These are the acrylic yarn blankets but they are cheaper. If you prefer a better quality made of actual wool yarn, you'll have to pay a bit more.
Kiowa Horse Saddle Blanket - 32"L x 64"W | NRS - National Roper Supply - Western Wear, tack, team ropes, horse tack, team roping ropes, bits...
Ranger Hogan Synthetic Saddle Blanket | NRS - National Roper Supply - Western Wear, tack, team ropes, horse tack, team roping ropes, bits...
Tough-1 Shoshone Saddle Blanket - Horse.com

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pad

what about the "wither lift pad".?...
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If you are talking about something like this
Saddles Tack Horse Supplies - ChickSaddlery.com Felt/Neoprene Wither Pad
Then, no, it wouldn't help. Probably would actually make it worse. Those are designed for horses with very large, sharkfin withers like are common on thoroughbreds.

Can you get some pictures of how the saddle fits on her? Not cinched up, no pad, just the saddle sat on her back by itself and then get some pictures from the side and from the front so we can see how it fits her shoulders and where it sits. You can search some other saddle fit threads to get a good idea of the kind of pictures we would need.

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