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    01-06-2013, 11:13 PM
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Weanling
Saddle slipping too far forward ?? Why?

Hello everyone,

I believe i'm having an issue with my western saddle always slipping too far forward on my horse. I place it so the bars are not on the shoulder blades but when im done riding when I check my saddle, the bar is sitting on the shoulder blade and is forward, not where I placed it in the beginning.

When I remove the pad I can also see the hair is all fluffy because the pad slipped forward so the hair is all messed up...

I believe my saddle fits well, the saddle bars follow her shape very well and she never says a word when i'm saddling or unsaddling her.

I've read about the saddle rigging placement, that it could affect this problem but really not sure. My saddle rigging is a 7/8. Also read that if a saddle is slipping too far forward it means the saddle doesn't fit properly?

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance :)
     
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    01-06-2013, 11:19 PM
  #2
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Could you post pics of the Saddle on your Horse without a pad?

One from a side view and one from an angle showing the front against the Horse.

Saddle could be too wide.

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    01-06-2013, 11:50 PM
  #3
Weanling
Here's a link with the pictures
saddlefittingpictures - Home

The saddle is placed way too far forward on these pics though, I am aware. Im going tomorrow I will take new pictures

I have posted a thread before on this forum and was told it was a tad too wide, here's the link to the thread.
Saddle fit question with link to pictures

It is possible for a saddle that is a bit too wide to cause a saddle to slip too far forward?
     
    01-07-2013, 12:06 AM
  #4
Trained
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Originally Posted by joseeandjade11    
It is possible for a saddle that is a bit too wide to cause a saddle to slip too far forward?
Very possible.

I know nothing about Western saddles or how to fit them, but my TB filly, unbroke at this stage but in the process of being broke to ride, is quite a slender girl. HER saddle is one of the Wintec easy-change saddles - well, not actually a Wintec, but same system and fits the same plates - and she's in a medium plate. Her saddle sits a size narrower than the plate you put in it so she's ACTUALLY about a medium-narrow.

I put my new dressage saddle on her back because that's the saddle my dressage girth is on, and it's way too wide [it's a medium tree, but it's a Stubben, and Stubben medium is MUCH wider than Bates/Wintec medium; more equivalent to a wide Bates/Wintec plate than a medium or m/n]... I am very careful to put saddles on in the correct place.

I just walked her in-hand for 30 seconds then hung around letting her stand and get used to the saddle, and when I took her back to the tack shed to untack, the saddle had slipped forward over her shoulderblade. HER saddle doesn't do that.
     
    01-07-2013, 10:49 AM
  #5
Weanling
Ok it might be that it is a tad too wide :S
If I just do some walking the saddle will stay in place but when I start trotting or canter then it moves forward and goes on the shoulder blades and I don't like that. I used to put my saddle on the shoulder blade before, because I didn't know it would interfere with the horse's movements. So I educated myself and now I know how to put my saddle correctly although now the problem is it doesn't stay where it should be...
     
    01-07-2013, 10:59 AM
  #6
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Just taking a guess by seeing your Horse without the saddle and the Saddle pics on your Horse, that Saddle may have a 7" gullet Full QH Bar, you need a 6.75" Gullet Regular QH Bar.


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    01-07-2013, 07:48 PM
  #7
Weanling
My saddle is a western rawhide adobe with quarter horse bar and has a 6.5 gullet
Western Rawhide Adobe Dark Walnut Saddle - Western Rawhide

I took pictures with my phone, sorry if their not really clear I forgot my camera at home. I can tell my saddle is a little too wide but I can reassure you that with a pad underneath the gullet never touches the withers, I can always pass my fingers through even when sitting on the saddle.

On these pics, it looks like the gullet is touching the withers but it's not, it's close though but not touching


     
    01-07-2013, 07:58 PM
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Pics can be misleading, your Horse looked wider than that.

I know the Ralide Tree in it well, nothing really narrower out there.

You might try a pad similar to this one to raise the whole tree frame up higher Weaver All Purpose Contour Western Pad - 32x32 - Adams Horse and Pet Supply

The section where the bars of the tree rest is slightly thicker than the rest of the pad.

You can test the theory by folding some towels and placing them on each side held with some duct tape to your existing pad and then put the saddle on and see how that helps, cheaper than buying a pad for testing

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    01-07-2013, 08:43 PM
  #9
Weanling
Hehe true because buying a new saddle is way out of my budget and I mean this saddle isn't THAT bad on her and it doesn't seem to bother her, it bothers me more I think lol
I looked at the pad you showed me, it's nice. I think I will try a cut-back pad like this one
SOUTHWEST CUT-BACK BUILT-UP PAD - Working Pads - Saddle Pads - Western Tack
Or this one
WESTERN CUT-BACK 32" x 32" PAD - Working Pads - Saddle Pads - Western Tack
     
    01-07-2013, 08:48 PM
  #10
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Hopefully a pad like one of those will help, a new saddle would make no difference, you have about the narrowest anyone makes

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