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post #1 of 15 Old 11-23-2012, 06:24 PM Thread Starter
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Question Is this saddle too far back?

Somedays I will ride her and I will feel totally off-balanced. She acts up, bolts, and won't slow down. Other days, she's just your typical green-broke horse. I can't tell if the problem is from the position of the saddle or not.

When we trot, I give all I can to even be able to post it. Forget about trying to sit it! She trots quick and fast, with very little leg extension. When we canter, I feel like I'm behind her movement and have little balance. She bolts at the canter, and does quick and choppy strides too.

She has a short back, so I'm always worrying whether or not the saddle is too far back. When I measure, it's usually fine, but I don't always measure before we ride.

The saddle is a close contact saddle with forward flaps. With this kind of a saddle, do you have to put the flaps a little over the shoulders?

Withers and Shoulder:
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1144/pict0017g.jpg

Saddle Position (usually a bit farther back):
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5...einnewtack.jpg

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post #2 of 15 Old 11-23-2012, 07:14 PM
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The saddle location looks OK to me, but your stirrups look far too short, IMO. Let's see what others have to say about it.
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post #3 of 15 Old 11-23-2012, 07:16 PM Thread Starter
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The saddle location looks OK to me, but your stirrups look far too short, IMO. Let's see what others have to say about it.
Thanks for your feedback!
I actually just deleted the pictures. *facepalm*
I'll try shortening my stirrups and see if it helps. Thanks. C:

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If anything, I thought the saddle was too far forward, although I always found it hard to judge by appearance with that type of saddle. It also looked tipped up in the front, so maybe check to see if it is too narrow?

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I think this is mostly the same as the picture you linked to, borrowed from your 'barn':


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I agree with bsms, if anything it looks to far forward to me!
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Yes, that's the picture! Sneaky you. C;

I'm worried about putting the saddle any farther back since it'll be past her last vertebrae. :/

Is there a way to check if the saddle is too narrow?

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http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8...dlefitride.png

Here is a picture from two rides ago. The saddle stayed in its position, I felt more secure, and she was more willing to go. How do this look compared to the other picture?

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These links aren't perfect, but they give an idea for fitting an English saddle. Unless a person has endless money, they often end up making some compromises. My horses have very short backs, but if I'm going to make an error, they ride better with the saddle a little too far back than a little too far forward. That may not be true of all horses, but it is with my 3.

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English Saddle Fitting Guide | Dover Saddlery

Your last picture looks better to me.

With my Australian saddle, I like to put the saddle on and then walk my horse thru some figure 8s before cinching up. That seems to allow the saddle to find its own place on the back, and the turns allow the shoulders to move the saddle back if needed. Then I start tightening. Although after a couple of years, I can usually skip the figure 8s because it is always the same saddle & same horse and I pretty much KNOW where that saddle goes on Mia now.

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These links aren't perfect, but they give an idea for fitting an English saddle. Unless a person has endless money, they often end up making some compromises. My horses have very short backs, but if I'm going to make an error, they ride better with the saddle a little too far back than a little too far forward. That may not be true of all horses, but it is with my 3.

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English Saddle Fitting Guide | Dover Saddlery

Your last picture looks better to me.

With my Australian saddle, I like to put the saddle on and then walk my horse thru some figure 8s before cinching up. That seems to allow the saddle to find its own place on the back, and the turns allow the shoulders to move the saddle back if needed. Then I start tightening. Although after a couple of years, I can usually skip the figure 8s because it is always the same saddle & same horse and I pretty much KNOW where that saddle goes on Mia now.
Those are great links, thanks!
In your opinion, it's okay for the saddle to be a little too far back?
I'm always so worried about that kind of thing, but I guess I never think about how painful it can be if it's just as far forward.

Another question: If the saddle is too far forward, does it throw of yours and the horse's balance and making the ride REALLY bouncy? That's what I KNOW is the problem. I've always known her to have a bouncy trot, but I can sit her trot easier bareback. The saddle is making something wrong...

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