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    07-28-2010, 11:14 AM
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Foal
scratches on cantle?

Hey everybody!
I am looking at a used saddle to buy and it has some kind of gnarly scratches on the cantle. What do you know about buffing them out? How would I fix them? Would I ever be able to show in the saddle?
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    07-28-2010, 11:21 AM
  #2
Yearling
You should be able to make them less noticable with a good saddle soaping and then oiling the saddle.
     
    07-28-2010, 11:53 AM
  #3
Showing
There is no such way to buff out scratches on a saddle. As Horseluver suggested, a good oiling my help but aside from dying the whole saddle (or just the seat portion), you may just have to look at it as "character".

You didn't mention the brand but if it is not a real old name brand saddle, I would suspect that it is an Asian import and their dying process is not that good, as well as the leather itself not accepting the dye. A poorly processed hide, or the type of hide it is, contribute to a poor dye job.
     
    07-28-2010, 12:06 PM
  #4
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Originally Posted by iridehorses    
You didn't mention the brand but if it is not a real old name brand saddle, I would suspect that it is an Asian import and their dying process is not that good, as well as the leather itself not accepting the dye. A poorly processed hide, or the type of hide it is, contribute to a poor dye job.
What is "dying process"? I've heard this before, but never actually thought about it.
     
    07-28-2010, 12:10 PM
  #5
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They dye the leather, kitten.

My saddleseat saddle was an odd orange color when I bought it, and the tack shop told me they could dye it, or I could just use neatsfoot oil on it myself and save some money.

I oiled that saddle religiously, and now it's a lovely dark brown. It's also butter soft, because neetsfoot oil is a deep conditioner.

I know some people say not to use neetsfoot oil because it can deteriorate stitching, but I've never had a problem with it. I prefer it over Lexoil and the other commercial cleaners.

Of course, my saddle is a Crump, so very well made with extremely fine leather. Cheaply made saddles don't have great leather or stitching to start with, so that could be a problem.
     
    07-28-2010, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
They dye the leather, kitten.

My saddleseat saddle was an odd orange color when I bought it, and the tack shop told me they could dye it, or I could just use neatsfoot oil on it myself and save some money.

I oiled that saddle religiously, and now it's a lovely dark brown. It's also butter soft, because neetsfoot oil is a deep conditioner.

I know some people say not to use neetsfoot oil because it can deteriorate stitching, but I've never had a problem with it. I prefer it over Lexoil and the other commercial cleaners.

Of course, my saddle is a Crump, so very well made with extremely fine leather. Cheaply made saddles don't have great leather or stitching to start with, so that could be a problem.
So is "dye" = "using oil" (or conditioning)? BTW, I tried neetsfoot oil too on my bridle, but it didn't work that great - it was very oily for very long time (and smelt horrible too). I've heard to "kill" stitching you have to oil every day for extended time.
     
    07-28-2010, 01:08 PM
  #7
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No, dye means actual dye.

Neetsfoot oil causes leather to darken, but that's just a side effect. It's really a leather conditioner.

I've used neetsfoot on all my bridles, because even though I use a synthetic saddle and neoprene girths, I've always preferred leather bridles.

I've never encountered the bridles staying oily or smelling badly.

You have to make sure to wipe off any excess oil that isn't absorbed into the leather. Neetsfoot does have a smell to it, but I've never found it to be unpleasant.
     
    07-28-2010, 01:41 PM
  #8
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Val, in addtion to dying as SR said, there is also drum dying which means the color is added to the leather at the time of the tanning process. Better leathers are done that way since it more evenly, and deeply penetrates the pores of the hide.

As for Neetsfoot oil, it's the neetsfoot compound not the pure neetsfoot that has been know to deteriorate cotton thread but saddles for the past 20-30 years have been made using nylon thread so it's really a non issue. Besides, it takes a lot of the compound to cause a problem. If your saddle stayed sticky for a long time, then (and please don't take offense) the leather may have been a poor quality and not very porous so it didn't absorb the oil at all. The other explanation is that it was totally saturated - but that would probably be unlikely.
     
    07-28-2010, 02:04 PM
  #9
Started
Kitten_Val ... did you strip/clean the bridle first to get off the waxy stuff (that comes on the bridle- for protection) off? If not the oil won't do much help and won't be able to soak in ... another oil that works really well is Tanner Oil
     
    07-29-2010, 09:50 AM
  #10
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Iride, thanks for that info. I didn't know it was the neetsfoot compound that deteriorated cotton stitching, as opposed to pure neetsfoot oil.

I've always used pure neetsfoot oil, so I guess that's why my stitching has never been compromised. My saddleseat is the first saddle I ever owned, so it's going on 35 years old. It still looks almost brand new.

Pure neetsfoot costs more than the compound, which I guess is why some people buy it rather than the pure.
     

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