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post #1 of 9 Old 08-26-2012, 11:48 AM Thread Starter
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Question Shanked bit for older TB

We have an older (19) TB gelding. No clue what he was used for before we got him this last spring. He was sold at a fundraising auction 1 year ago as black 18 yr old stud....that's all anyone knew about him. Buyer found him very ridable, had him gelded and then sold to a young girl who trail rode all summer. Come winter, no money for feed....so in spring gave away a very skinny old boy.

My daughter rides and shows western in 4H shows. In order to show, she HAS to have a shanked bit on him. Cy tosses his head as tho he is trying to get away from the bit. He pulls the side of the bit into his mouth to chew on it. We have had his teeth floated 2x since we got him so truly don't think that is the problem. My daughter does have a problem with not being as light on the reins as she needs to be so there is a problem there with extra pressure (we're working on this)

We've tried a couple different bits....tom thumb, grazing bit and O-ring snaffle. He actually does best in the O-ring, but can't be shown in it. Any suggestions for a bit that has a shank but is very, very close to the O-ring?
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post #2 of 9 Old 08-26-2012, 03:46 PM
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Any shanked bit will not be like an o-ring. But what I used on my mare that turned out to be too mild for her was a Myler comfort snaffle. It has the shanks but the mouth piece is a roller instead of a full break. It is a level 1 so no port. All the parts moved independantly. I would be keeping it but it is just to mild for my mare. I would try to see if you could borrow one first to try since they are pricey. I'm selling mine for $70 so for that money I would want to know it would work first.

Unfortunately the bit worked for a few months with my mare until she found out if she threw her head up there was nothing left in her mouth since it has no curb and no break. But if he is gentle and calm I highly recommend it.
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Try looking into a JR Cowhorse bit. Reinsmen makes good JR cowhorses.

Myler also has very nice bits, they are higher end and more expensive, but many horses work well in their designs.
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Try looking into a JR Cowhorse bit. Reinsmen makes good JR cowhorses.

Myler also has very nice bits, they are higher end and more expensive, but many horses work well in their designs.
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In our area, a jr. Cowhorse would be illegal for showing because the bit is not fixed to the shank with a solid join, but can slide (minimally) and so is considered a gag. Sucks, because I LOVE my tender touch by reinsman and that's what I'd like to use, but it also can slide just a little. So before trying the Jr. Cowhorse, check your local 4-h rules, or ask your leader about the bit, and show her pictures of it to be sure.

In our area, the kids can use a Kimberwicke for western, and we've had luck with that since the shanks are shorter, and you can use much less leverage than with most other shanked bits (use the top slot to attach the reins). They're cheap, and may be worth a try.
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In our area, a jr. Cowhorse would be illegal for showing because the bit is not fixed to the shank with a solid join, but can slide (minimally) and so is considered a gag. Sucks, because I LOVE my tender touch by reinsman and that's what I'd like to use, but it also can slide just a little. So before trying the Jr. Cowhorse, check your local 4-h rules, or ask your leader about the bit, and show her pictures of it to be sure.

In our area, the kids can use a Kimberwicke for western, and we've had luck with that since the shanks are shorter, and you can use much less leverage than with most other shanked bits (use the top slot to attach the reins). They're cheap, and may be worth a try.
Our regulations just state that it HAS to have a shank....doesn't have to be solid on the bit (tom thumb is not a solid join) for anything over 5 yrs old. Kimberwicke looks like a good idea....wonder where I can find one to try......
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Kimberwickes are legal for Western.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Kimberwickes are legal for Western.
I don't know. In our area all it states is that they have to be a "shanked" bit. Kimberwicke IS shanked.....albeit a very small shank....
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I know that in my area, they are legal for 4-h, though not usually preferred. It can be hard to find another bit that is legal with a short enough shank, and all the rule states in our area is that it cannot be a gag bit or hackamore, and must have a shank...
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I know that in my area, they are legal for 4-h, though not usually preferred. It can be hard to find another bit that is legal with a short enough shank, and all the rule states in our area is that it cannot be a gag bit or hackamore, and must have a shank...
Ours says "Horses will be ridden with a snaffle, curb, spade, half-breed bit or with a rawhide, leather or rope hackamore (bosal). Bosals or nosebands are not permitted with a bit. Mechanical hackamores, tie downs, training forks (except in practice ring) and gag bits are prohibited."

"Horses 6 yrs od and older must be shown with a shanked bit, and riders may use only one hand on the reins to guide the horse, regardless of type of bit used....."

It then goes on to outline what reins can be used and how you hold them, etc.
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