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post #1 of 9 Old 04-11-2012, 10:45 PM Thread Starter
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Should I get a close contact or just a jumping saddle?

Hi guys,
I'm thinking of getting a jumping saddle. I am currently doing up to 75cm in a wintec 2000 all purpose (the older style), but I can't put my stirrups up to my comfortable jumping height without my knees going over the edge. And I tried jumping 80cm with the stirrup length that is as high as it can go before my knees go over, and its just really uncomfortable...
So, my question is, should I get a close contact:

Or this jumping saddle:

I will be continuing to jump higher as I progress. I am jumping 75cm in course... and I plan to jump 80, then 85 (sorry, I don't know how high these are in feet) and so on... what would be the best saddle to get? The close contact, or the deeper seated jumping saddle?
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post #2 of 9 Old 04-11-2012, 11:10 PM
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Have you looked at Thorowgoods? They are wool flocked and have a more forward flap than the Wintec. They have a sythetic version of this same saddle on the doversaddlery website called the T4.
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No, I haven't... But i'm just looking now :) Are they for sale in Australia/can be shipped to Australia?

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I just looked and they don't ship to Australia I don't think. But I'm looking at Wintecs cause they are the cheapest saddles (the flocked ones) around where I live...so that's why I was going to get a wintec. I would like a trainers masters saddle, but I can't afford it :/

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There is little difference between a close contact and jumping saddle. Both have a flatter seat than an all purpose with the gneral idea that it helps the rider get out of the saddle in a two-point. A saddle made for "jumping", usually show jumper types, have slightly more forward flaps than a close contact saddle. This helps when the jumps get higher. If you have longer legs than you might want to go with the jumping saddle to get that more forward flap to accomodate your knee when your irons get shorter, though I believe either of these types of saddle come with a longer flap option.

When I was jumping I always tended towards a close contact just out of choice and habit..it was what I was used to. I didn't like the overly forward flap of the jumping saddles.

75-80cm is calculating as about 2 feet..at this point I would say it is comfort preference. If you have a friend and/or friends from which you can borrow the saddles, ride and jump in both and see which you prefer. At your current jumping height I don't believe the slight differences between the two will really be noticeable unless, as indicated earlier, you have a longer leg that needs the extra room the forward flap would give you.
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'Close-contact' refers to the panel and sometimes tree shape, not the saddle type. You can have a close-contact dressage saddle, for example.

The saddle shouldn't affect your ability to jump, really, especially 2'6" (75cm) and given what you're using at the moment. Are you particularly tall or have really long legs? Those two would be the main reasons for switching to a specialist jumping saddle, which you'll then find more difficult to school in because the stirrup bars will be fitted a touch further forward (or should be).

The Wintec CC has a pretty flat panel to go with it's flatter seat, not helpful if your horse has a concave back profile, when you'd be better off with their jumping saddle, IMO. The flap cut is similar for both saddles.

Hope this helps:)
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Oh, thank you! I didn't know that close contact referred to the tree shape..i thought it meant because the seat wasn't as deep! Haha, thank you for your information! It really helped! :)

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'Close-contact' refers to the panel and sometimes tree shape, not the saddle type. You can have a close-contact dressage saddle, for example.

The saddle shouldn't affect your ability to jump, really, especially 2'6" (75cm) and given what you're using at the moment. Are you particularly tall or have really long legs? Those two would be the main reasons for switching to a specialist jumping saddle, which you'll then find more difficult to school in because the stirrup bars will be fitted a touch further forward (or should be).

The Wintec CC has a pretty flat panel to go with it's flatter seat, not helpful if your horse has a concave back profile, when you'd be better off with their jumping saddle, IMO. The flap cut is similar for both saddles.

Hope this helps:)
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I just looked and they don't ship to Australia I don't think. But I'm looking at Wintecs cause they are the cheapest saddles (the flocked ones) around where I live...so that's why I was going to get a wintec. I would like a trainers masters saddle, but I can't afford it :/
Thorowgoods are made in England. Don't know if the companies there ship to Australia.

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