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    05-06-2012, 10:59 PM
  #1
Showing
Should I switch bits?

Okay, so I ride Aires in a 5.25" eggbutt french link snaffle and we both really like it. However, because he's so green, he'll often fight me, and when he does, the bit will slide through his mouth (often to the point that the ring will slide through into his mouth). I tried putting a curb chain on it, but even on the smallest setting it's too loose to prevent the bit from sliding through his mouth.

So, I'm thinking of switching out our regular eggbutt french link for a full cheek french link. I know he hates regular snaffles (that's what we started him in and he hated it...put him in the french link and he was MUCH more responsive).

Do you think switching to a full cheek is a good idea?

If we do make the switch, I'm considering this bit:
Mikmar Cupreon French Link Three Piece Copper Rolled Full Cheek Snaffle Bit

I know it's a little pricey, but I think the roller will keep him busy (he likes to chew on the bit when we're walking or just sitting there).
     
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    05-06-2012, 11:03 PM
  #2
Trained
Yup, I vote for the full cheek, like how they don't pull through when you're having issues
     
    05-06-2012, 11:04 PM
  #3
Trained
LoL, I just commented on your other thread and suggested a Full Cheek as opposed to what your using now.

But, I recommend having his teeth looked at first, and a chiropractor after that (if no teeth issues were found)

I'd rule out pain related issues that could be causing the behavioral issues before making decisions about changing the bit.
     
    05-06-2012, 11:08 PM
  #4
Showing
Would the action of a the full cheek french link be that much different than the eggbutt french link we're in now?

Definitely going to rule out pain issues first.
     
    05-06-2012, 11:14 PM
  #5
Trained
If you use the keepers on the full cheek it sits quieter in their mouth I think. The keepers stop the bit rotating so much as you take up contact.

What size bit does Aires take? I was looking for a 6" full check french link for Ben, there don't seem to be that many about in bigger sizes.
     
    05-06-2012, 11:15 PM
  #6
Super Moderator
That's a very nice looking bit. I have always been curious about this bit:

Mark Rashid Horse Training - Rockin S Snaffle
     
    05-06-2012, 11:16 PM
  #7
Trained
Yes, there is a noticeable difference between the 2 bits. With the Full Cheek, I like to think of it like this...essentially puts up a "wall" on the opposite side that your trying to go. So your turning Aires right, and it's going to be like you placing a full hand right alongside the left side of his muzzle and gently pushing his face in that direction. So your pushing from the left side, while pulling from the right.

I hope that makes sense. It was explained to be about 10 years ago and my trainer is much better at explaining things then me. She started my first horse in a Full Cheek because he didn't have a lot of flex and bend in him.
     
    05-06-2012, 11:16 PM
  #8
Trained
Not really. It's going to pull his face more, but I can't imagine it making a huge amount of differance. If anything it will offer you more lateral control and flexion. I like that bit.
     
    05-06-2012, 11:17 PM
  #9
Weanling
I wouldn't think it would be much different, as long as you don't use keepers on the bit.
     
    05-06-2012, 11:25 PM
  #10
Showing
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Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
If you use the keepers on the full cheek it sits quieter in their mouth I think. The keepers stop the bit rotating so much as you take up contact.

What size bit does Aires take? I was looking for a 6" full check french link for Ben, there don't seem to be that many about in bigger sizes.
For as huge as his head is, you'd THINK we'd need a big bit, but the one we have is a 5.25" and it fits him perfectly. O.o I definitely want to get a better-quality bridle and will get bit keepers for the full cheek.

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Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
Yes, there is a noticeable difference between the 2 bits. With the Full Cheek, I like to think of it like this...essentially puts up a "wall" on the opposite side that your trying to go. So your turning Aires right, and it's going to be like you placing a full hand right alongside the left side of his muzzle and gently pushing his face in that direction. So your pushing from the left side, while pulling from the right.

I hope that makes sense. It was explained to be about 10 years ago and my trainer is much better at explaining things then me. She started my first horse in a Full Cheek because he didn't have a lot of flex and bend in him.
That makes perfect sense, actually!

Thanks for the responses, everyone!
     

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