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post #21 of 43 Old 12-02-2011, 09:09 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you everyone for all your opinions,time,and stories.

I really appreciate it! I am going to start wearing a helmet when I ride my green horse. Thanks again!
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post #22 of 43 Old 12-02-2011, 09:12 PM
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I don't jump horses any longer.
I take calculated risks when it comes to riding young horses.
I ride in an English saddle because that is how I've been trained.

I'm willing to bet you wouldnt have gone into the situations you did in a war zone without your protective gear.

The protective gear is there for a reason and it is available cheaply so there realy is no excuse. I've seen the devistation done to family of those who have serious head injuries and I am selfless enough that I don't want my family to go through that and I certainly don't want to have any of them forced to wipe my arse becasue I can't
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post #23 of 43 Old 12-02-2011, 09:19 PM
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CALCULATED risks.

I support folks jumping, but it is riskier than not jumping. Fun, tho, and folks have every right to do it. And I've known of more injuries from folks working with green horses than anything else, rarely to the head - but someone has to do it.

Calculated risk. Helmets cut the risk down around 50% if you hit your head, but risk always needs to be looked at as a total package - horse, rider, environment, activity, tack. And then folks should make an informed decision about how they choose to ride.

I doubt I'll ever get on Mia without a helmet. Trooper in an arena, Australian saddle? I'm OK with that, although I normally toss the helmet on anyways. I don't know how to 'break' a horse, but I've ridden very green ones. Prefer a helmet for that.
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post #24 of 43 Old 12-02-2011, 09:20 PM
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faye, maybe I should loan you some gear from my days in Afghanistan.

Ride safe!



And faye, please don't do anything to increase your risk, such as riding a green horse or jumping. Or using an English saddle.
Bwahahahahahahahaha!!

Perhaps something like this:

Would be more effective!!







Riding horses is DANGEROUS. A little styrofoam hat what covers 5% of your body is honestly only going to protect you from a select few injuries. I have been concussed with a helmet on, a friend of mine broke her neck (a few millimeters away from full paralysis) while wearing a helmet and a woman I know broke her back severely, WITH A HELMET ON. If you aren't willing to accept the fact that every time you get on the horse there is a possibility you will die or become a vegetable, regardless of saftey precaustions and risk mitigation measures (such as wearing a helmet) then DON'T RIDE. We accept so much risk every day, driving to the barn is just as dangerous as riding, that if we were to be so paranoid about dying or being a vegetable we'd all be in a little room eating space food and Lysoling everything!!

The important thing here is "in moderation" or "with caution". I'm not saying anyone is stupid for wanting to protect themselves in case of a fall, but people have way too much faith and dependence on what a helmet will do in a fall!!! Realize that there is ONLY a 50% chance of that helmet protecting you from SOME head injuries!! We still want to reduce the risk of falling as much as possible before relying on a hat to save us.

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post #25 of 43 Old 12-02-2011, 10:13 PM
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I ride western and just do trails around my property.

How many of you people out there were helmets when riding western?

What kind of helmet should one wear? Pictures appreciated!
I did wear one when I was riding Western on trails (I ride English now). Of course helmet is not a cure for everything. But it adds protection, and several times when I run into the low branches on trot/canter, it was very handy to have one on.

The choice really depends on your head/comfort (like with everything else). All my every-day helmets are by Troxel (I have Duratec model, I believe), mostly because they are adjustable to get a better fit.

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post #26 of 43 Old 12-02-2011, 10:34 PM
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Anabel ~ Just wondering where you got the statistic of 50% chance of a helmet protecting your head. I'd say it would be 100% for a helmet to protect your head from serious injury!! Of course you should be careful to prevent other injuries....some people wear protective vests especially the eventers but horses spook and horseback riding is a DANGEROUS SPORT! Jumping is especially dangerous and I would say anyone who jumps without a helmet is empty headed!!
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post #27 of 43 Old 12-02-2011, 10:49 PM
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Anabel ~ Just wondering where you got the statistic of 50% chance of a helmet protecting your head. I'd say it would be 100% for a helmet to protect your head from serious injury!! Of course you should be careful to prevent other injuries....some people wear protective vests especially the eventers but horses spook and horseback riding is a DANGEROUS SPORT! Jumping is especially dangerous and I would say anyone who jumps without a helmet is empty headed!!
Bsms said it first :P But it is a beleivable statistic!

50% chance of it completely PREVENTING any head injury whatsoever.
There is still a good 50% of your skull exposed with a helmet on (your face, lower neck, ears, etc..) and even if you hit your head in such a way the helmet takes most of the impact, there is still a high possibility that you can get a concussion, be knocked uncoscious, etc...

So, believable now?? I have hit my head hard a few times on various immovable objects, and the one time I attempted to split especially dense matter (an arena wall) with my head I did end up with a concusion, severely bruised bones in my elbow (yay feeding 12 year olds opiates for pain!!) and a completely flattened helmet. So now I get these really awesome migranes that leave me basically incapacitated for a week.

Helmets, body protectors, etc.. do not make you invincible. You still have to take only appropriate risks, know how to fall properly and not reach beyond your skill level.

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Anabel ~ Just wondering where you got the statistic of 50% chance of a helmet protecting your head. I'd say it would be 100% for a helmet to protect your head from serious injury!! Of course you should be careful to prevent other injuries....some people wear protective vests especially the eventers but horses spook and horseback riding is a DANGEROUS SPORT! Jumping is especially dangerous and I would say anyone who jumps without a helmet is empty headed!!
Prefect example is my friend who was riding my jerk horse, he bucked a good 6-8 times and she ended up flying in front of him and he ran over her, she had a helmet on but he got her near the temple, broke her hand and gave her a concussion but with the amount of blood you would have thought he cracked her skull but really it was a relatively small cut just in a bad stop.

My point is the helmet doesn't cover your head completely so you can still get kicked or fall where the helmet doesn't protect. If she hadn't had the helmet it probably would have been much worse since I believe he also cracked the helmet and that could have been her head if she hadn't been wearing one!
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post #29 of 43 Old 12-02-2011, 11:30 PM
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Anabel ~ Just wondering where you got the statistic of 50% chance of a helmet protecting your head. I'd say it would be 100% for a helmet to protect your head from serious injury!! ...
It comes from here:

"The first paper from the Radcliffe Infirmary Accident Department, Oxford8 was a retrospective study of people who sustained injuries as a result of horse riding related accidents, who attended the Accident Department and were admitted to hospital.This was followed up by a comparison 20 years later by Chitnavis et al 9 who undertook a prospective study of attendance at the Accident Department in 1991. They found a reduction in total admissions of 46% because of a fall in head injuries most likely due to the use of riding helmets. "

Spinal injuries resulting from horse riding accidents

Notice it doesn't prove the helmets actually made the reduction, just that they believe the 46% reduction came from using helmets. I've also seen 50% used elsewhere, but can't remember the study right now.

Helmets are good, but they are not 100% effective, any more than not wearing one means a 100% chance of your head exploding. My worst injury to date was when Mia bolted during a dismount, and I landed back first on some rocks the size of my fist. I was wearing a ball cap, and my head wasn't hurt at all.

Anecdotal evidence is pretty well worthless because there are anecdotes on both sides. Statistically, helmets seem to help much more than they hurt.

But if someone doesn't want to wear one, I don't think that makes them wrong, stupid, or selfish - as has been suggested on this thread and darn near every helmet thread.

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...If you aren't willing to accept the fact that every time you get on the horse there is a possibility you will die or become a vegetable, regardless of safety precautions and risk mitigation measures (such as wearing a helmet) then DON'T RIDE...and not reach beyond your skill level.
That is indeed the only way to be certain. In fact, a review of statistics from the US eventers in the 90s indicated there was more risk of injury while on the ground around horses than in dressage competition. So the only way to be certain is to avoid horses all together.

Some enjoy riding without a helmet. Some enjoy jumping. Some enjoy barrel racing. All of that involves some level of increased risk. Just as walking into a corral does...

I really like the phrase "and not reach beyond your skill level". That is probably the biggest key to reducing injuries.
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post #30 of 43 Old 12-03-2011, 04:58 AM
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For an adult it's a personal choice.

I have broken at least 2 helmets in jumping accidents falling on my head or my head coming into contact with the jump.

On the other hand...

I have broken my pelvis in 2 places (1997) when a horse flipped over on top of me, never touched my head. I also shattered my right leg (2010) doing an emergency dismount off a bucking horse, never touched my head.

I will only wear a helmet jumping, otherwise it collects dust in the tack room.
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