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    09-02-2011, 07:43 PM
  #1
Foal
Question Side pull vs hackamore

So I decided to try the horse I bought at the auction in the round pin...hes been healing up great and loved it lol I originally bought a egg but snaffle to try out since I had no idea what they used on him he kept gaping his mouth and not acting like he knew what to do with it or like it might be hurting him so I tried a smaller lighter snaffle still did it so I had a friend jump on him he just used his halter and he did really good so that friend went and got a side pull he had and we tried him on that and he did pretty good a lot better than with a bit in his mouth....but what I want to know because this weekend im going to be buy one or the other is which would be best....whats the difference in them ...a lot of people say a hackamore can be more harsh than a bit...but from the reading I am doing a side pull is more for plow reining which he really doesn't need help with since he already knows how to move on neck reining and leg ques...what would be a good hackamore to get for a horse that is pretty light on pressure I don't want anything harsh...also does anyone else just ride around in a side pull...just wana get as much information before I go out and buy one for him...he also has a huge head I think I might have to buy him like a cob size lol...he seem to really enjoy getting out and stretching his leg now I think he's needs to be worked more to help relieve the stiffness...I want to start walking trotting him around like I did the other night but with the right equipment of my own
     
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    09-02-2011, 07:46 PM
  #2
Foal
I also just realized I think put this in the wrong area lol should have been in the tack area sorry lol
     
    09-02-2011, 08:10 PM
  #3
Trained
Pinky, that surely must win the prize for the longest sentence that I have tried to read in a long time, unless you count ............as sentence ends.

The nasty rumor that was circulated about the worldwide shortage of punctuation is not true, you do not have to conserve in this area, there is plenty of punctuation to go around, it will not deplete the worlds supply, so please feel free to use it without feeling guilty.
     
    09-02-2011, 08:30 PM
  #4
Green Broke
Cob size bridles are smaller than standard size bridles. A cob is an English term for a smaller than average horse (but not a pony).

A side pull is to train a horse to yield and bend. Usually the young horse is first trained in a side pull and just wears the bit and gradually is brought to understand the bit.

A hackamore should be a rawhide core bosal with a mecate. When used correctly the bosal fits the horse's nose and face and the mecate actually squeezes the bars of the bosal so that the bosal works on more than the nose of the horse. The proper use of the rawhide core bosal and mecate is part of the Spanish Vaquero's horse's education toward the proper use and wearing of the spade bit.

I think you are referring the a "mechanical Hackamore" or 'bitless curb' that actually acts on the horse's facial structure similar to a levered vise. I have used a side pull and brought a horse along in a bosal and mecate but I have never used a mechanical hackamore and never would.

It sounds like your horse (and maybe you) needs a good deal of training. I suggest you use a side pull and have the horse wear the bit (snaffle) and gradually change him over to the bit (take weeks to do this). I used to use two sets of reins when I did start using the bit.. at first with no pressure on the bit while using the side pull. Eventually I would use both with equal pressure and eventually the bit rein would be doing the work, and the side pull rein would be slack.
     
    09-02-2011, 08:44 PM
  #5
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
Pinky, that surely must win the prize for the longest sentence that I have tried to read in a long time, unless you count ............as sentence ends.

The nasty rumor that was circulated about the worldwide shortage of punctuation is not true, you do not have to conserve in this area, there is plenty of punctuation to go around, it will not deplete the worlds supply, so please feel free to use it without feeling guilty.

I am not here to get a "A" in writing in a horse forum...I am here to talk about horses if you don't like my Punctuation don't read my posts simple as that.....I write like it or no o well
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    09-02-2011, 08:58 PM
  #6
Trained
When communicating, you get more responses if folks are comfortable reading your posts. No one is ordering you to do so, just saying you'll get more response.

I use a side pull halter with my horses. The gelding needed a bit for quite a while because he was used to it and it gave him confidence. Now he seems happy to be ridden in the rope halter.

If you really need to crank a horse's head around, or keep it up, you can do so in a side pull halter. Most of the time, I use about a finger of pressure to back up legs. You can also do a pulley stop with a rope halter, and a one rein stop.

I wouldn't use a mechanical hackamore for anything...just seems too likely for a horse to get hurt. I'd much rather use a bit than a mechanical hackamore. (Mechanical hackamore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
     
    09-02-2011, 09:04 PM
  #7
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elana    
Cob size bridles are smaller than standard size bridles. A cob is an English term for a smaller than average horse (but not a pony).

A side pull is to train a horse to yield and bend. Usually the young horse is first trained in a side pull and just wears the bit and gradually is brought to understand the bit.

A hackamore should be a rawhide core bosal with a mecate. When used correctly the bosal fits the horse's nose and face and the mecate actually squeezes the bars of the bosal so that the bosal works on more than the nose of the horse. The proper use of the rawhide core bosal and mecate is part of the Spanish Vaquero's horse's education toward the proper use and wearing of the spade bit.

I think you are referring the a "mechanical Hackamore" or 'bitless curb' that actually acts on the horse's facial structure similar to a levered vise. I have used a side pull and brought a horse along in a bosal and mecate but I have never used a mechanical hackamore and never would.

It sounds like your horse (and maybe you) needs a good deal of training. I suggest you use a side pull and have the horse wear the bit (snaffle) and gradually change him over to the bit (take weeks to do this). I used to use two sets of reins when I did start using the bit.. at first with no pressure on the bit while using the side pull. Eventually I would use both with equal pressure and eventually the bit rein would be doing the work, and the side pull rein would be slack.
What I am thinking is he has never had a bit that has put pressure on his tongue like a snaffle does...I thought of getting a ported bit, but if he responds well with a side pull or hackamore I would just stick with that instead of spending hundreds of dollars on bits that might or might not work on him.

I do not know his amount of training, all I know is he used to be a ranch horse..who knows what kind of training they gave him...I plan on working with him to see how he does..technically I have only rode him once and he did pretty good considering....he seems to work more off of leg pressure than anything...but does need work in some areas...
     
    09-02-2011, 09:09 PM
  #8
Trained
From the article on mechanical hackamores:



Sorry, I know it is off topic, but it made me laugh! And it looks like he has a chair seat going there...
     
    09-02-2011, 09:10 PM
  #9
Foal
I also did not know about the cob..I had read some where that it was bigger than horse size they must have written it wrong. I have never used cob before so I just went off what that said.

I also like to say that a simple my posts are hard to read would be fine instead of being sarcastic about it.

I agree with wanting it to be easier to read for everyone to get more comments, like I said there are easier ways of saying it instead of the way that person said it.
     
    09-02-2011, 09:41 PM
  #10
Weanling
I don't really know anything about side pulls and hackmores, have you tried a bosal? I know a girl who rides in one and she says she loves it.
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