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        09-12-2012, 02:05 AM
      #11
    Trained
    What about a treeless saddle?
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        09-12-2012, 10:44 AM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Thank you all. Tiny I was a bit bigger but I have been working really hard on changing my fitness level. That means no more junk food, no more sitting for hours on the couch with minchies and I get up and play WITH the kids instead of watching them play. I have lost several inches off my waist and thighs and I am so happy that you said what you did. It really makes me feel like I am headed in a better direction.

    DA, I am not completely closed minded about treeless if I find one that feels right but the 3 I have ridden in just didn't feel right for some reason. Plus Cinny is only half angel, sometimes the devil half comes out and if my under developed very novice daughter is on him when that happens I want a saddle that will take care of her as she is one of those "hold on to the saddle when the poop is flying" sort of girls. It has only happened with him a handful of times yet she never hit the ground.
         
        09-12-2012, 11:46 AM
      #13
    Yearling
    Re the back issue and a couple of comments from the fitter (who I assume only saw photos), is the saddle rocking? Try girthing it up, without a pad and tight enough to mount, then try to lift the cantle upwards. If it comes off the horse's back more than a half-inch that's likely your main problem. Do you get backache, or feel you're leaning back to stay in balance? If so that's another sign.
         
        09-12-2012, 12:29 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    No,we don't have any rocking going on. The saddle fitter had me do this test too last week once further there is no movement. He is actually very sensitive to super tight girthing so we use a no slip cover on his birth and no slip liner under his saddle so that is doesn't have to be super super tight on him and even with the only moderately tight forth there is no rocking.

    As for feeling like I am leaning back, I feel like I couldn't even if I tried. I can't even sit properly in it as it alelways just throws me forward with his movement. At the end of a ride my tailbone ACHES really really bad for a few hours. I never thought anything of it before because when I first started riding Cinny we got a stirrup caught on a gate and he spooked really bad from it. I came off but my foot stuck in my stirrup so I was suspended for a second until my leather slid off the bar on the saddle...which was in the down position and then dropped onto my tailbone fracturing it. I thought all the pain was from this injury and that I would just always have it until I started riding bareback and lesson horses with lesson saddles.
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        09-12-2012, 12:30 PM
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    Green Broke
    Gah please excuse my tablets autocorrects.......
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        09-12-2012, 03:17 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    Okay. The fact the saddle throws you forward sounds like a balance issue to me which was why I asked about the rocking. Though the horse looks fairly level withers to croup (nice horse, BTW) if you look at your side-on pic you can see more back-slope towards the withers which tends to make the saddle pommel drop (as the back drops) under load. You end up leaning back to keep your balance and the saddle tends to move forward until it's tight behind the horse's shoulder.

    If it were me I'd strip the old flocking out and rebuild the panel trying to take this into account. It's often the case that a saddle which seems a perfectly good fit when the horse stands still is not so good with a rider up :(

    Don't know if any of this makes sense to you, and obviously it may be completely wrong. Really it's impossible to be accurate like this, particularly with what appears to be such difficult-to-see-what's-going-on problem :)

    And if Kieffer saddles have only one spot where you MUST sit, why don't they tell you where it is? Is it a secret or something? ;)
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        09-12-2012, 04:34 PM
      #17
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by unclearthur    
    Okay. The fact the saddle throws you forward sounds like a balance issue to me which was why I asked about the rocking. Though the horse looks fairly level withers to croup (nice horse, BTW) if you look at your side-on pic you can see more back-slope towards the withers which tends to make the saddle pommel drop (as the back drops) under load. You end up leaning back to keep your balance and the saddle tends to move forward until it's tight behind the horse's shoulder.

    If it were me I'd strip the old flocking out and rebuild the panel trying to take this into account. It's often the case that a saddle which seems a perfectly good fit when the horse stands still is not so good with a rider up :(

    Don't know if any of this makes sense to you, and obviously it may be completely wrong. Really it's impossible to be accurate like this, particularly with what appears to be such difficult-to-see-what's-going-on problem :)

    And if Kieffer saddles have only one spot where you MUST sit, why don't they tell you where it is? Is it a secret or something? ;)
    This does make sense, and the fitter even said the panel flocking is what is causing a lot of the problem. I guess I can't bear to tear anything out of this otherwise awesome saddle though and would rather sell it and get something else than to tear it down...even the saddle fitter didn't think this was a great option. Maybe I'm just scared to mess with it. I already have several people who want to look at it this weekend so I will see what comes of it. If in a few weeks nobody has wanted it, I might do as you suggest.
         
        09-12-2012, 04:41 PM
      #18
    Trained
    Another vote for the Thornhill Vienna here, lovely lovely saddles, and they cater for the larger butt, like mine Mine is the first dressage that puts me in a good position, it just sucks hugely that it is to wide for Willow, hoping that it fits Big Ben when he comes home, or I will be looking for another one
         

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