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post #1 of 29 Old 10-08-2009, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
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Slipping western saddle? Does it fit?

The saddle I've been using on Lacey keeps slipping around. I can have it cinched super tight and it still slips a bit.
I've heard that slippage happens when the saddle doesn't fit well but this saddle appears to fit her pretty well. She's also the type that acts out when the saddle isn't any good and she's doing mostly fine (she has gotten more antsy about being mounted as of late but she's not rearing or taking off as soon as I get on and she's never been good at standing still for mounting). She has been nickering significantly when I get off but she's always done that a bit now and then, now it's just every time. I think it might have something to do with the pad being smooshed into her withers (she has pretty high withers for an Arab) because it shifts down as the saddle slips around.

Here's a picture (it's just a random one my friend took so I'm pretty sure it wasn't cinched up yet and the back strap is under the saddle) from a few weeks ago, tomorrow I will update with better pictures if need be.


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post #2 of 29 Old 10-08-2009, 10:19 PM
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Well, I always cinch three times before mounting. Cinch, groom, pick feet, cinch, bush mane, put on headstall, cinch, go.

I get a couple more inches each time. My saddle used to slip like crazy until I started letting her breathe between cinching. Many horses will puff out and hold their breath while you tighten the girth.

Try that, if it still slips, it likely doesn't fit.
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That is what I usually do. >.< I saddle her up and do the cinch then walk her to the mounting block, check the cinch again, then get on and often times I'll check the cinch from her back and tighten it again from up there. >.<

Could it be the type/size of cinch? The cinch is way too big for her to begin with so it's up as high as it'll go on the right side and there's about 3 inches of latigo space on the left. Could that affect the slippy-ness of it?

I really need this saddle to fit because I totally cannot get my own for at least a year or so, unless I come into an exorbitant amount of money before then. >.<

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Breast collar possibly? Also you may want to look into the pad with withers relief (cut front or whatever it's called). I know it all cost. :( But I can't think of anything else.
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Definitely get a cinch that fits and see if that helps. Try something neoprene (I use the Classic Equine Soft Touch girths... so do my horses...) They don't slip as easily.

Grab a wire coat hanger and bend it over her withers, then hold the shape that you just made to the inside of the saddle. Good way to see if there are any MAJOR fit issues - you'll obviously need a more fool proof system for smaller fit issues.
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Can you take some pics without the pad and take some shots from the front of the Horse to show how the gullet area of the saddle is fitting around the wither area of the Horse, that would help.

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I'll get better pictures tomorrow. =)

And I'll look into a new girth for sure and possibly a cutback pad. How do I figure out what size of girth she needs? I'm sure she needs one that's pretty dang tiny. Should I be fitting it for the last hole on the right side attachment thingy or a hole somewhere farther up?

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Doesn't the saddle pad have a bit to do with the way the saddle fits and stays without slipping? I had the problem with my saddle a while back and a nicer saddle pad was definitely key. At least that was what I was told. Just a thought.
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It just needs to fit comfortably. The last hole leaves a lot of nylon (or leather if your off billet is leather) on your horse, but the top hole cause lots of uncomfortable overlapping of pad/girth/what have you. I'd say choose a middle hole, and then you want there to be relatively the same amount of latigo on the other side. You also want the ring in the center of the girth to be centered under your horse... you don't want that all over on one side or anything, esp if you plan on using a breast collar.
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I'll get better pictures tomorrow. =)

And I'll look into a new girth for sure and possibly a cutback pad. How do I figure out what size of girth she needs? I'm sure she needs one that's pretty dang tiny. Should I be fitting it for the last hole on the right side attachment thingy or a hole somewhere farther up?

Hard to tell from the pics, but I would guess you need a girth about 6" shorter than the one in the pic.

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