I loved the webbers on the Wintec saddle I rode in for years. When I got my leather saddle, I didn't want to get the Bates webbers
because they're designed a little differently- the hole doesn't go all the way through both layers; instead it only goes through one and the outside-facing layer is solid to hide the hook, but I've seen how that works out over time- eventually the hook wears through the leather in the spot where they're always attached and that looks worse to me than seeing the hook to begin with.
Instead, I got Prestige Ideal Dressage Stirrup Leathers
which are almost exactly like the Wintec webbers, but in real leather. They're thicker than the Wintecs (not sure how they'd compare to the Bates) and were a little difficult to get through the holes in my stirrups, but I do like them